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Offline Kanth

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« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2004, 12:23:31 PM »
Why?

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« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2004, 12:24:13 PM »
"He allowed the overt dicrimination of certain foreigners even up to blatant rounding up of individuals based on ethnicity. He had a big part in passing law that moved the US dangerouly close to a police state and he attacked a country for all the wrong reasons."

Had Gore been the Prez, he would have apologised to all muslims of the world for all of the things our evil empire has done in the past, present, and future. Saddam would still be in power terrorizing his own people, and plotting another run at one of his neighbors, further destabelizing the region.

Of course, France would still like us and that makes up for the rest.

"He lied to the American public about the war and more importantly to the servicemen and women."
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« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2004, 12:26:37 PM »
"He allowed the overt dicrimination of certain foreigners even up to blatant rounding up of individuals based on ethnicity."

Give me an example, and the Al queda and Taliban members in Cuba don't count (unless you'd rather us place them in the care of your family)

He had a big part in passing laws that moved the US dangerouly close to a police state.."
Oh yes! I can just feel the FBI screening my every email and bugging every telephone call I make!  Oh, and those scanner thingies at the airport?  I thought that was an excellent thing to incorporate into the airports...we were much too lax before ;)

" and he attacked a country for all the wrong reasons. "

I do believe bush had a 92% approval rating for invading Afganistan and hunting down the Al Queda network. Please provide some facts that could possible show that I may be wrong here.

"He lied to the American public about the war and more importantly to the servicemen and women. "

What the hello does that have to do with the subject of 9/11? That was 1.5 years after the fact. Stay on subject please.

Talk about blundering posts!

So what exactly did Bush do wrong on 9/11 and the following 3 months after that crisis?  This is what we're talking about. If you want to cover his career, well there are about 300 other topics you can do a search on and read. We've covered that area already. Today I'm asking a question. Whats offensive about it?  Please be specific.

For cry out loud, we have guys that say "Jacksons breast didn't bother me at all! You're too anal!" but then turn around and say "Bush's picture was offensive in front of the Twin Towers!"

Oh my, the hipocrasy!
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« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2004, 12:28:58 PM »
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Tell me exactly whats so offensive of a president, who nursed this nation through one its deepest, darkest hours, to be pictured in front of an event that occured? I don't get it. He *was* the standing president when the tragedy occured. For God's sake he broke a record for an approval rating 3 months after the event that no president had done before him! I think folks are using this as a tool to lash out at Bush, nothing new. Carry on...


I can entirely understand why someone who is related to those who died during 9/11 can feel that the memories of their loved ones are being cheapend because they are being used for political gain.

I'm not sure why anyone else would find it particularly offensive.  The whole purpose of a political campaign for the incumbent is to persuade the electorate that he did a good job on the big issues. 9/11 was one of the biggest issues during Bush's presidency, so why not mention it in the campaign? Obviously the portrayal of it has to be handled sensitively.

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« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2004, 12:30:26 PM »
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Why?


There is something about expanding ones political career by showing images of a place of mass slaughter that dosnt sit right with me. There are better ways of showing proven leadership then scream 'look what i did after 9/11' every 5min.

If al gore was president the same course of actions would have been takeing. Minus the patriot act. The decisions bush made were pretty much no brainer.

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« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2004, 12:34:12 PM »
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Rip said:



I can entirely understand why someone who is related to those who died during 9/11 can feel that the memories of their loved ones are being cheapend because they are being used for political gain.

I'm not sure why anyone else would find it particularly offensive.  The whole purpose of a political campaign for the incumbent is to persuade the electorate that he did a good job on the big issues. 9/11 was one of the biggest issues during Bush's presidency, so why not mention it in the campaign? Obviously the portrayal of it has to be handled sensitively.

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This is a controversy that is old as politics itself.  At what point do we say that its offensive because the same old political ads continue to use current events to their advantage? Would you like examples of other presidents taking the same advantage of current events?

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« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2004, 12:35:53 PM »
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There is something about expanding ones political career by showing images of a place of mass slaughter that dosnt sit right with me. There are better ways of showing proven leadership then scream 'look what i did after 9/11' every 5min.

If al gore was president the same course of actions would have been takeing. Minus the patriot act. The decisions bush made were pretty much no brainer.


Yep, this is such a new tactic in politics, isn't it?
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« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2004, 12:40:14 PM »
It isnt a new tactic, but its something i was hoping would be left out of this election.
Dole and clinton, and clinton and bush the 1st never went this low.

Now the question is will kerry have something equally as negitive.
My personal belief is no, but you never know.

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« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2004, 12:40:29 PM »
Rip, it's about exploitation of a tragedy. You would be screaming bloody murder if Kerry put out an ad with similar pics saying "It happened on Bush's watch."
I think it shows more about Bush's heavyhanded, authoritarian style of leadership. "Vote for me or your all going to live in fear!"
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« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2004, 12:42:32 PM »
Funny, many of you dudes have no trouble whatsover with Kerry mentioning every third sentence he was in Viet Nam... no matter what it is he's talking about. Talk about wearing something out, or cheap political tactics.

As for the topic header, you're simply wrong. The ads have been very well received. At least the pundits think so thus far.

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« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2004, 12:43:35 PM »
I think Bush has every right to point to his leadership in one of the darkest hours in our nation's history. Even if I'd known someone who'd perished in that attack I wouldn't be offended by the ads.

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« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2004, 12:43:47 PM »
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It isnt a new tactic, but its something i was hoping would be left out of this election.
Dole and clinton, and clinton and bush the 1st never went this low.

Now the question is will kerry have something equally as negitive.
My personal belief is no, but you never know.


Yep, never have politics gone so low in the waterline :rolleyes:
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« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2004, 12:43:57 PM »
The adds only devide the country even more. It pisses people off that think using the deaths of 3k people for political gain is wrong, and it makes people that are afraid of their own shadow let alone a dark skinned fellow applaud.

You think kerry talks about vietnam in everyother sentence, because you listen to nothing but soundbites from conservitive sources. If you actually listen to one of his speaches i doubt he mentions it even once. The only time ive heard him use it is when he is actually given a speach to vets.

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« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2004, 12:45:34 PM »
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Rip, it's about exploitation of a tragedy. You would be screaming bloody murder if Kerry put out an ad with similar pics saying "It happened on Bush's watch."
I think it shows more about Bush's heavyhanded, authoritarian style of leadership. "Vote for me or your all going to live in fear!"


Bush is putting himself in front of tower and saying "it happened on MY watch, and I was there for the American people". Its how you're interpreting it for political reasons, rpm. Be honest with yourself.

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« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2004, 12:46:59 PM »
Stoop so low? Hmm, maybe the DNC for using move-on.org to shadow fund the election against election law? Let's see how that one pans out, eh? ;)