Fascism: Let the Debate Begin

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by AdmRose
The military should be used to maintain order and prevent active dissent, NOT crush political opponents or grouped deemed as "dangerous."

suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship is a primary function of fascist government

Freedom of speech, religion, and basic civil liberties need NOT be done away with in a fascist society.

...with laws proposed by popular vote and adopted by the same system.

popular vote has as an underpinning the acceptance of political opposition;  a fascist society supresses the opposition, therefore popular vote and fascism cannot coexist.

No hidden agendas, no corruption, and no centralized power base. Citizen rule, with only an executive counsel to sign bills into law and control the military, with this counsel being elected for life and subject to impeachment for misconduct.

Fascism is by definition centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader. A dictator has absolute power and therefore is absolutely corrupt.

Voting rights need to be earned, not given.

People do not earn rights, people are 'endowed by their Creator' with rights.
 
I, personally, believe that the United States could function as a fascist government, better then a democratic government as it is far more efficient. I welcome comments and criticisms; I expect a lot of the latter.

Merriam Webster; Fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

It was either Mark Twain or Will Rogers who said "Thank God we don't get all the government we pay for."

I think most Americans believe the same and will gladly trade off some efficiency for freedom.

[_Schadenfreude_]

I think all the Americans who died 60 years ago to defeat Fascism even if it was on another continent enslaving other people would probably disagree with you.

[Hortlund]

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse (generous gifts) from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the world's greatest civilization has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through this sequence. From bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependence; from dependence back into bondage."

[Naso]

Be careful of what you ask

We (Italy) already experimented Fascism.

An hint for free:

"Fascism is evil"

Dont tell me I did'nt warn you.

[Holden McGroin]

But Benito made the trains run on time....  you saying it wasn't a fair trade?  Freedom for a predictable train schedule?

[Dowding]

Saying the Nazis gave fascism a bad name is like saying Sydney Cook tarnished the reputation of paedophiles everywhere.

[Saintaw]

Fascism is good for you... right.

[BUG_EAF322]

I hate all ism's they stand for freakout.
Never heard of peacefull human fasicts anyway

[lazs2]

and gun control... don't forget gun control...  All good fascists do the best job of any government barring commies of disarming the populace... for good reason.

lazs

[miko2d]

Connection: Wait, let me see if I get this right.
You are defending fascism?

 You have to take AdmRose in context. He is not defending fascism in general. He is promoting american fascism.

 It is those pesky foreigners that always screw up whatever they do, be it fascism, aggression, democracy, extermination, etc.
 American fascism will undoubtedly be good and an object of pride for all american patriots.

 miko

[Steve]

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse (generous gifts) from the public treasury

Thankfully, this doesn't apply to the U.S. as the U.S. is not a democracy.


I don't know about fascism  but I do expect that one day there will be another revolution in the U.S.  As the liberals continue to gain power and tax those that would succeed on their own in order to redistribute the wealth to those who have their hands out, as the liberals chip away at our rights and the fabric of our society with ideas like gun control, political correctness, gay rights, lax approach to our borders... our country declines.
 One day, those remaining that do not believe the U.S. should be a socialist state will take up arms... or perhaps carve out some land and secede.  If I am still able, I will unbury the arms that the liberals could not find as they came around to confiscate them and join those that believe in our constitutional rights.

[Glasses]

I like cheese.

Carry on.

[lord dolf vader]

I HATE ILLINOIS NAZIS !!!

[crowMAW]

I like toast.

I like cheese.
 

What kind of cheese?

[AdmRose]

Originally posted by Saurdaukar
If you ever decide to run for Gov. of California, MSNBC will dig up this thread and youre screwed.

Best to delete it now.  

Thats ok, if I ever run for governor of California - please - have me killed.