Author Topic: Il2fb Ace Expansion Pack (Read 6454 times)

_Schadenfreude_ · « **Reply #15 on:** March 10, 2004, 04:01:27 AM »

Well if graphics isn't an issue for mmog then why is AH or AH2 even happy with what is very poor graphics when far better is available out there?

I agree btw that FA is lagging far behind the gameplay and realism that AH and IL2 provide - was playing IL2 offline yesterday and it is amazing - it's offline mode is better than most online runs you get these days.

If IL2 ever went mmog I'd be there in a heartbeat.

I like having to set the mixture on the engine and open the radiator and set the prop pitch and worry about the 2nd stage turbo charger......map readingwithout an icon is still a bit of a challenge but a lot of fun.....got hopeless ly lost and when I saw this factory for the 3rd time finally realised I was going in a large circle.

From a business view I'd have thought that collaboration between the big three or maybe four flight sims would be a good idea - rather than compete for a relatively small customer base.

_Schadenfreude_ · « **Reply #16 on:** March 10, 2004, 05:19:16 AM »

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Originally posted by MC_Honky
P-47 roll porked.

p-38 roll porked.

lol total BS the p47 in FB handles better than the P51 in AH - very crisp very clean, fast as hell, awesome guns.

MC_Honky · « **Reply #17 on:** March 10, 2004, 07:20:27 AM »

To the tard fanboys on this board.

Until that Russian-French axis of evil decides to give the US planes thier due I fell its my duty to call them out on it. It no coincidence that:

1) The P-47 cockpit suxs
2) The P-80 cockpit suxs
3) The P-51 B&C cockpits sux

I took a P-47 and a stuka up to 30k in the "quick mission builder" and the freaking STUKA OUTRAN and OUTROLLED me.

AND THE WORST SIN OF ALL!!! THE AXIS OF EVIL PUT A P-51 ON THE COVER OF THE ACES EXPANSION BOX AND DIDN'T GIVE US AN AMERICAN CAMPAIGN !!!!!!!!!!! WTF ?????

Hajo · « **Reply #18 on:** March 10, 2004, 08:03:08 AM »

Well....best graphics I've seen in a boxed flight sim IL2FB and AEP win hands down.

Flight models on any flight sim take getting used to. A lot harder to land clean in AEP then in AH. So....depends on how much one plays and how fast they get used to the FM.

Selection of aircraft...AEP has them all whippped. Hell I fly Axis planes, find a FW190A9 in any other sim. And at least they have the Ki84.

My post was not to start a pissing war.....just to mention the fact that IL2FB and AEP are both quality products and well worth your hard earned dollars IMHO if you like flight sims.

As far as MMOG AH wins hands down....no contest, that also MHO.

moot · « **Reply #19 on:** March 10, 2004, 08:14:54 AM »

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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe

Thats why I think it would only be HTC and Maddox combined to create the ultimate WW2 MMP game.
-SW

The low speed FM in il2FB is like sticks in mud, it makes no sense.

Maddox would give no watermelon about HTC's no nonsense approach to choices on quality, and would probably do something like EA games did to the West brothers on WSC aka Racing Legends.

Spooky · « **Reply #20 on:** March 10, 2004, 08:28:34 AM »

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Originally posted by MC_Honky
To the tard fanboys on this board.

Until that Russian-French axis of evil decides to give the US planes thier due I fell its my duty to call them out on it. It no coincidence that:

...snipped cry baby whine...

You do know that design specs for this sim have been reviewed by the highest French and Russian authorities, US hardware thus being properly dumbed down for propaganda reasons, as part of a master plan for world domination.

We thought about renaming fries and mustard too, and use the hype created to draw attention away from our intelligence and foreign policy failures but we thought it would be seen as childish and stupid by the rest of the world, so we targeted the sim community instead...

MC_Honky · « **Reply #21 on:** March 10, 2004, 10:12:25 AM »

My only hobby in this world is being dominated by a Franco-Russian alliance set on rewriting history.

GRAPEVINE- HURRY UP WITH AHII !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Urchin · « **Reply #22 on:** March 10, 2004, 01:19:10 PM »

I dunno, I flew the P-51D and the P-47's in IL:FB. The P-47 handled like a big wet ****, but the P-51 was good.

I'll probably buy Aces today and waste a couple days playing it.

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #23 on:** March 10, 2004, 04:08:45 PM »

Shut up tard, go back to finger painting in your WWII coloring book.
-SW

straffo · « **Reply #24 on:** March 10, 2004, 04:22:47 PM »

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Originally posted by MC_Honky
My only hobby in this world is being dominated by a Franco-Russian alliance set on rewriting history.

GRAPEVINE- HURRY UP WITH AHII !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so say a man from the country wich produce tons of inacurates "historical " movies ... insert mega-rollesyes here

Hristo · « **Reply #25 on:** March 11, 2004, 12:19:40 AM »

Yea, true Russo-French conspiracy, shows also beauce AEP is out in Europe two weeks later than in the US

Anyway, Il2FB is different than AH so that it insists on historical accuracy. Rarely you find 109s fighting 190s, and if you stick to servers like greatergreen, you will enjoy greater "realism":

- no icons (except friendly and only at very close ranges to ID the pilot)

- no map icons (you have to use landmarks, sun or clouds to find your way over the map)

- complex engine management (if you are profficient, you can squeeze out more hp, but risks are also greater

- complex damage model and more accurate gunnery (bullet penetration, ricochets, ammo mixes)

- historical cockpits

With TrackIR, this sim is a winner, IMHO. AH has only one thing going for it - being MMOG. Other than that, it pales in comparison.

Finally the Spitfire is in Il2FB (AEP) and guess what - even clipped wing version ! Not to mention numerous versions of 109s, 190s, Yaks, LaGGs, Las, P-51s, 3 P-47s and 2 P-38s. And exotic stuff like Go 229 or YP-80.

Did I mention eye candy ? Somehow I feel few people here believe that poor eye candy is a sign of a "serious sim", and because FB looks so good, it can't be serious

Kweassa · « **Reply #26 on:** March 11, 2004, 01:46:09 AM »

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1) The P-47 cockpit suxs
2) The P-80 cockpit suxs
3) The P-51 B&C cockpits sux

I took a P-47 and a stuka up to 30k in the "quick mission builder" and the freaking STUKA OUTRAN and OUTROLLED me.

..

Maybe you suck, Honky.

How can anyone be outran, outrolled by a Stuka in a P-47.. is beyond me..

Fishu · « **Reply #27 on:** March 11, 2004, 01:49:45 AM »

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Originally posted by MC_Honky
I took a P-47 and a stuka up to 30k in the "quick mission builder" and the freaking STUKA OUTRAN and OUTROLLED me.

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News flash: the AI cheats

straffo · « **Reply #28 on:** March 11, 2004, 02:14:40 AM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
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News flash: the AI cheats

No surprise here : it's a franco-russian AI

gatt · « **Reply #29 on:** March 11, 2004, 05:20:40 AM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
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News flash: the AI cheats

LOL

Really, how can ppl still believe in QMB comparisons? When ppl will finally understand that the AI fly with a simplified FM? The developers say that the average CPU cannot handle a full FM for every AI controlled aircraft ... I ask: not even for a 1vs1 fight? Hmmmm

BTW, if you wanna compare the IL-2 FB a/c, then fly online.