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Offline Waffle

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« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2004, 01:45:03 PM »
i'll take a b24 or b25 before the b29 anyday for Us bombers

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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2004, 02:14:37 PM »
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i'll take a b24 or b25 before the b29 anyday for Us bombers


And I think there are a raft of planes that should be included before the B-29.

It belongs in the game because of its extensive service, but there are 6 years of history to flesh out before we toss it in.

How about an He-111?  Il-4?  Ki-21?  

All the great planes from when the issue was in doubt? We need all those before the B-29.  Like:

He111
D017Z
Do217 (or He177)
Ju88 variants
Sm79
Cant 1007 Alcione
Gloster Gladiator
Cr42
I-16
Lagg3
MiG3
Il-4
Pe-2
Wellington
P-38 variants (at least G and J? Anyone?)
P-39
Ki-84
Early Jap Bomber (Ki-21 or 48 and G4M)
Ki-43
Ki-44
Ki-45
More Zero variants
Later Jap DB/TB
B-25
Lockheed Hudson
Loire et Olivier LeO 451
SB2C
PBY
Short Sunderland
H8K


Many, many more.  But in terms of planes that would play well in the current arena? Best choice has to be the Frank, Ki-84.  

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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2004, 02:57:19 PM »
Okay I must agree, every new plane would be welcome, and I can imagine that many people want the B-29 but....why!?

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« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2004, 03:11:42 PM »
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Okay I must agree, every new plane would be welcome, and I can imagine that many people want the B-29 but....why!?


I don't know why they want it, I do not.  I think if everything else is modeled, fine.  But it's too much for the game as currently configured.  We need the bombers of other nations first and frankly fighters get more us in the MA so why a B-29?  Want them all, but need some more than others.

Bring us the Ki-84 next.

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« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2004, 04:35:43 PM »
I don't think we're ready for new planes yet. Just let HiTech work on Aces High II first, all the planes have to be remodelled and reskinned etc, not to mention all the new maps! They're busy enough for not worrying about new planes, which I can support.

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« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2004, 05:53:20 AM »
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I don't think we're ready for new planes yet. Just let HiTech work on Aces High II first, all the planes have to be remodelled and reskinned etc, not to mention all the new maps! They're busy enough for not worrying about new planes, which I can support.


I don't think anyone is saying that there will be new planes before AH2 is released, I know I have no expeectation that we will see any until AH2 is running fairly well.  I doubt we will see any new planes this year.  We're simply daydreaming and giving reasons for the future.

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« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2004, 07:45:44 AM »
Exactly, but it's good to hear some nice ideas of others :)

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« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2004, 05:27:31 PM »
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And I think there are a raft of planes that should be included before the B-29.

It belongs in the game because of its extensive service, but there are 6 years of history to flesh out before we toss it in.

How about an He-111?  Il-4?  Ki-21?  

All the great planes from when the issue was in doubt? We need all those before the B-29.  Like:

He111
D017Z
Do217 (or He177)
Ju88 variants
Sm79
Cant 1007 Alcione
Gloster Gladiator
Cr42
I-16
Lagg3
MiG3
Il-4
Pe-2
Wellington
P-38 variants (at least G and J? Anyone?)
P-39
Ki-84
Early Jap Bomber (Ki-21 or 48 and G4M)
Ki-43
Ki-44
Ki-45
More Zero variants
Later Jap DB/TB
B-25
Lockheed Hudson
Loire et Olivier LeO 451
SB2C
PBY
Short Sunderland
H8K


Many, many more.  But in terms of planes that would play well in the current arena? Best choice has to be the Frank, Ki-84.  

Sakai


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« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2004, 07:02:48 PM »
Regarding adding B-29 to Aces High, read the book Flyboys.  

B-29 didn't work that well at high alt and in Japan's jetstream.  When it came down low, it was in such large numbers against such beaten opposition that it destroyed Japan city by city with firebombs with or without the two nukes.  

But in Aces High, particularly in Main Arena with all the other uber planes in numbers limited only by player choice, the B-29 would face much stiffer opposition and therefore do much LESS well than it did in WWII.

Play like 10 B-29s go against any assortment of 10 F-4Us, P-47s, FW-190s, La-7s, Nikis, Tempests, Typhoons.  What are the odds any single B-29 would get past any single late fighter, let alone a bunch of them?

The fear of adding the B-29 to Aces High has been greatly exaggerated.
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« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2004, 08:31:41 PM »
The B29 may be the highest priority aircraft to add to Aces High.

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« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2004, 09:01:50 PM »
I think there should be 2 variants of B-29...

1. Stock version (10 perks)
2. Nuke version that can destroy eveything within 5 mile radius. (same perks as 262)
« Last Edit: March 11, 2004, 09:05:37 PM by Ike 2K# »

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« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2004, 11:44:34 PM »
i agree with Sakai, there is tons more id like to see bfore B-29.

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« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2004, 12:48:18 AM »
Certainly there are many worthwhile planes yet to be added to Aces High.  But for the biggest news value, impact, interest, and all-around sales appeal ...

wouldn't it be smart and profitable for Aces High to be the first (I think) WWII sim to offer the B-29?
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« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2004, 06:49:40 AM »
i don't know halo.  if i had my druthers, buffs' bomb could not be made to drop under the wind layer.

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« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2004, 08:37:50 AM »
When is it going to quit? When we get to the Korean war planeset? Maybe the Veitnam era - hell lets get F/A-18s while were at it...lol!

Stick with the  Early birds that saw the most action.

Instead of getting you panties in a wad about a "wish list" - get in AH2 BETA and help out there. No new planes gonna come out until after thats out.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2004, 08:40:43 AM by Waffle »