Author Topic: War... (Read 1413 times)

Coolridr · « **Reply #15 on:** March 14, 2004, 11:49:25 AM »

GEEEZ...ever since the 60's and the Vietnam fiasco the world has turned into a bunch of rutabagas....what other solution other than the actions we've taken do you suppose would get rid of the problem countries/people in the world? If we never did anything...Bin Laden would still attack us because he hates us for being a wealthy nation with alot of influence, and he believes that everyone should have the same religious beliefs as him and uses the ancient method of trying to force people to believe. Could we as a world community sit back and let 2 countries terrorize their own people? And we are involved in other countries affairs that we don't profit from so don't pull that "it's just for oil" B.S. We went into Iraq without most of the world's help. Now that there is money to be made all the countries that wouldn't fight all of the sudden want to help with the rebuilding process...well F**K them. We do what we do because as a country we think it's right. And if the rest of the world has a problem with it..I invite any nation to try to stand against us.

Nilsen · « **Reply #16 on:** March 14, 2004, 12:00:41 PM »

Im afraid you may get your wish Coolridr.

If one or a few countries go on a cruisade to relive the world of "evil" nations and organisations without the backing of a majority of the world, then alot more nations and individuals may look the other way if they "spot" a terrorist reather than reporting it in and doing something that they otherwise would have.

I got a mail from someone here

who said i supported saddam and al q by posting my crap, so i say the same thing here that i did in my reply:
A unified world agains terror is alot more effective and cheaper then having a handful of them trying to do it alone just to get it done sooner or on their terms. Teamwork involves swallowing a few camels to get the job done.

Coolridr · « **Reply #17 on:** March 14, 2004, 12:05:30 PM »

There never has been and never will be any real teamwork in the world...every differnt nation has its own stance based on how much they will profit from it. So while we sit in the UN and let rutabagas like france china and russia keep the job from getting done..our enemies dig in and prepare.. Sometimes we have to take matters into our own hands.

Nilsen · « **Reply #18 on:** March 14, 2004, 12:29:49 PM »

Good luck with that Coolridr. You do realise how many people you just said was inferior to yourself dont you?

Coolridr · « **Reply #19 on:** March 14, 2004, 12:32:54 PM »

i never said anyone was inferior...just said that sometimes things have to get done and there isn't always time to sit in committee until everyone agrees

Nilsen · « **Reply #20 on:** March 14, 2004, 12:47:26 PM »

ehh.. if they are rutabagas and those sharing your views are "though" are you not labeling them inferior? or are you saying that beeing a pussie is preferable?

Coolridr · « **Reply #21 on:** March 14, 2004, 12:53:30 PM »

I was refering to ducking out of the conflicts...and then trying to step in afterwards to get reconstruction contracts...I don't look down on most countries' people as being inferior...maybe their politics are or their leaders are.

Nilsen · « **Reply #22 on:** March 14, 2004, 12:55:46 PM »

perhaps they are just different?

Hornet · « **Reply #23 on:** March 14, 2004, 12:57:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen10
Im afraid you may get your wish Coolridr.

If one or a few countries go on a cruisade to relive the world of "evil" nations and organisations without the backing of a majority of the world, then alot more nations and individuals may look the other way if they "spot" a terrorist reather than reporting it in and doing something that they otherwise would have.

this type of "relative morality" is bull****.
We would have prevented those women and children from dying if the US had been nicer to us.

Wow. What a proud chapter to add to any nation's history. Nations will either stand with the US against terror because it is wrong or they will not.

The fence-sitters that dangle their allegiance out there to see what it "will get them" are simply not worth having.

Sooner or later this type will let you down. They just don't see the danger yet. They don't want to win bad enough.

Osama and his boys want it real bad.

Nilsen · « **Reply #24 on:** March 14, 2004, 01:02:16 PM »

When it comes to the contracts then the most competitive bidder should get the them. I also belive that the iraqi goverment should decide who they will give them to...after all its alot of their oil money that will pay for it.

LWACE · « **Reply #25 on:** March 14, 2004, 01:06:41 PM »

wow this looks good so far, interesting points, amazing no hardcore flames yet lol.

i semi agree with coolridr, after vietnam everyone was pissed at the waste of thousands of lives over nothing, every president up until bush has been very cautious about going into war, and IMHO bush wouldnt have if it werent for 9/11.

I also agree that to have much of the world on our side is about impossible, im not saying they are rutabagas, but to sit around and wait until everyone agrees is impossible, wed still be sittting there, and who knows maybe would have been attacked horribly again already.

Good stuff guys, keep it civil:aok

Nilsen · « **Reply #26 on:** March 14, 2004, 01:08:22 PM »

That is one way to put it Hornet. I still strongly belive that a united world against terror is more effective. If you insist on doing things your way whatever the cost you are bound to get more enemies than friends in the long run. That applies to this situation as well as in other areas of conflict and in a normal society for that matter.

Nilsen · « **Reply #27 on:** March 14, 2004, 01:13:57 PM »

LWACE..if one cant argue/discuss on a bbs without resorting to a flamewar then there really is no hope for "real" conflicts

Keeping this thread from sliding into a mess also has to do with the participants. The folks here so far are civil and passes their opinions in a civil way.... just a matter of time tho before the "hardcore" guys busts up the party

LWACE · « **Reply #28 on:** March 14, 2004, 01:19:23 PM »

lmao yea, im hopen they will skip over it, or post somethin worth reading, guess time will tell.

Coolridr · « **Reply #29 on:** March 14, 2004, 01:26:41 PM »

Yiou are right...maybe rutabagas is not the right word and with the spirt of keeping this as a civil discussion I'll refrain from the name-calling of other countries and their people.