AH fun has dissapeared

[RAM]

Its sickening. I am tired of no skill HO dweebs (not that I've died this way a lot lately, but only to see people trying it sickens me), of no skill running guys, of no skill ack huging guys, of no 6 call guys (just got a 6 call...when I had no wing   ), of lack of teamwork (tried twice tonight to put up a mission, only 3 people answered out of 34), of lack of fun.

This is not what it used to be. I loved this sim because the challenge it was to fly against wonderful sticks. Now for each good pilot there are 4 dweebs that only know to HO and run.

This is getting very tiring. I have been having the same feeling for 3 months, and the only thing that keeps me flyin AH is that I love the sim itself.

But I dont like the way it is going. Each day I see more noskill moves on AH.

Now flame on me guys. Start to say that to come from 10K above and HO me is a valid tactic, and that running when you have 5K of altitude advantage is OK,that the 6 calls are my responsability (even when I am clearing another guy's 6) ,and that is their money and so they can fly like they want (Damnit it is MY money too, and I dont like to pay to spend 15 minutes after a running dweeb in the hopes that he will try at least to do ANYTHING to get me!!!!).

I know friends that tested the 2 week trial 5 months ago (more or less)...they loved AH because the challenge and fun on the MA. They couldnt afford paying it then, but 2 of them payed this month. I have been emailing them because I only saw them online 4 or 5 times , and they say that the AH they knew is no longer what it used to be,and that they wont pay for another month to be bored.

And I agree with them.

[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 08-28-2000).]

[ra]

Pilots are getting more and more comfortable with the furball till you die method of gameplay.  Hardly any planned missions anymore.  People who knock down fields end up calling for C-47s that never show up.

We need to get historical scenarios going so we can have an alternative to the MA.

ra

[AKSeaWulfe]

I'm having just as much fun as I did when I first signed up back in march. Yup arena has changed, it's become a lot more hostile. It's also become a lot more target rich. It's also become a lot more competitive. It's also become a lot more fun, I think. Of course most the times I fly I'm with a wingman or my squad.. so I don't worry much about someone coming at me head on. Quick jinx, throw his aim off. Now what's he aiming at? Nothing cuz my squad just killed him. hahahaha seriously it is funny :-)

Survival+Aces High MA=YOu need a wingman

-SW

[Ozark]

Become an Instructor!

Help these new people to flight and fly. Teach the new people about calling 6. Show them how.

The influence of one good instructor will have a domino effect.

Lead them...follow them...or sit on your hand and whine about them.

[Wanker]

Well, I have to agree with you to a point, RAM. I too was tired of all the HO PRO's. But, once I realized that they weren't going to fight the fight my way, I decided to beat them at their own game. I just had to adjust my thinking a little bit as to what was "Fun".

Now, while I'm becoming more and more active in the Check six, Snapshot and TOD events in the SE arena, I am having more fun in the MA by fighting "their way". HO's are pretty tasty, once you aquire a taste for them.  

banana
"Air combat is like sex: When it's good, it's really good. And when it's bad, it's still pretty good."

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[Spatula]

 

Originally posted by AKSeaWulfe:
Survival+Aces High MA=YOu need a wingman

  or a real fast plane.

Come on RAM its what you make of it. Sure things may have changed, but look on the bright side:
1. Newbies = new players, more players, good game growth.
2. Newbies = Silly moves => easy kills.
3. A changing environment, tests your adaptability.

You say no-one organises raids anymore, well it only takes one person to organise, and since you think there is a lack of it, and your experience, you'd make a great organiser.
If someone organises a well planned and executed raid then people will join in.

The biggest mistake is the bungled 1st raid attempt and then the tireless hour that follows of acks going down, fighters vultch, goon turns up, something goes wrong, so more bombers come, then fighters rtb, ack comes up, the cycle continues again and again. People waste hours trying to capture one base.

People need to post (and there use to be some) of good raid or base capturing tactics and strategies.

[RAM]

 

Originally posted by Ozark:
Become an Instructor!

Help these new people to flight and fly. Teach the new people about calling 6. Show them how.

The influence of one good instructor will have a domino effect.

Lead them...follow them...or sit on your hand and whine about them.

Tried to be one in last call for instructors. Others were selected instead of me to be instructors, so I didnt sit in my hand, exactly.


 

Originally posted by Spatula:

You say no-one organises raids anymore, well it only takes one person to organise, and since you think there is a lack of it, and your experience, you'd make a great organiser.
If someone organises a well planned and executed raid then people will join in.

The biggest mistake is the bungled 1st raid attempt and then the tireless hour that follows of acks going down, fighters vultch, goon turns up, something goes wrong, so more bombers come, then fighters rtb, ack comes up, the cycle continues again and again. People waste hours trying to capture one base.

People need to post (and there use to be some) of good raid or base capturing tactics and strategies.

No no no, you got me wrong. I DID post 2 raids on A30 tonight. wasted effort because first time only 2 people answered and second one only 3 did it. Believe me, I know how to plan a good raid over a base. The problem is that people dont want to be part of them.

planned 2 attacks yesterday. Thanks god Funked ,hizakite and Asmodan were online. Without them we wont had been able to launch them. We captured one base "in extremis" ( Asmo), and then we failed in the next one (a 190 got 2 jabo p47s because my computer locked when I was in his six  )

But today... and other days...

[Camel]

Ahh nevermind...

but... ya know, I always see the guy that goes HO as dead, just an easy kill in most cases.
Yesterday I had a great 51 vs 190 fight, we each had 4 or 5 opportunities to take the HO shot after rev'ing, but didnt. Rather both trying to get position, I had a blast! Thanks HT!    

[easymo]

 Weak guns = boredom

 If you know, one mistake and your dead. You stay alert. Not to mention you can win a gang bang, as the bangee.

 I would like to see all the guns at least double there current settings. I think this would pick things up alot.

 The impluse to HO go,s away, quite a bit, with the knowlege that death is automatic

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[Fatty]

Honestly, I'd much rather lose the good pilots who scream on the open channel at every poor guy trying to figure out which joystick button is the guns than the latter "unskilled HO dweebs" who do not take every loss as a personal insult and can roll with the punches.

They'll learn how to fly eventually, a lot faster than others will learn to relax.

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Fatty
Fat Drunk Bastards
"Never before in the field of human conflict was so little owed to so few that weighed and drank so much."

[Nash]

Whoah... Damn. Well said Fatty.

[Nash]

Btw Ram, are you in a squad? Perhaps this would liven things up a bit for ya?

[Sox]

Lol most of the HO's dont have much skill. Fly the plane out of the HO and kill em. If thats all thay go for they end up with less E. anouther chalage can you live threw them. One other thing like Nash said, Find a wingman or a sqaud. RW helps a ton. Me and Zigrat have been winging here latly and been doing well together, I not in there sqaud but no matter. And one more thing Fly for the Knights thay usly have a few Missions going on. Or at least Zigrat will biuld em once in awhile. I have seen more Furballs here latly but its all just a faze. It will die and more Real fights will come back. I am starting to see more S events to. One more thing as long as it is Taking HT and the gang for this new update. We might all be rookies all over again    . Releaning the planes will come into place, i feel once again. It will make my life more boring and many others if you take off. You have skill and as long as we get and keep people with skill in here than it will get better with time. Hang in there  <<S>>

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VMFA-212  Lancers

[This message has been edited by Sox (edited 08-28-2000).]

[funked]

RAM the more I play in scenarios the more fun I have.  My MA time is almost zero (squad night only most weeks) but I try to play every scenario that I can attend.  And I'm having a lot more fun.

And the scenarios are only going to get better with the map editor, custom icons, CM tools, more planes, etc.  A lot of the MA settings that make dweeb tactics possible will be changed for events.  And in events everybody is working together towards a realistic military goal, not some points contest or vulch fest.

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[Citabria]

the Main Arena and Aces High are not one and the same to me.

MA is just a Free for all gangbang alt monkey ackhuggin vulch o rama type of place just like the MA in WB or any other flight sim.