Originally posted by 214thCavalier:
Ok i suspect after Ram really squeaked at me last night for being a HO dweeb that a lot of this is aimed at me 
Right.
A few points Ram did not and still does not know what my position was.
Just to clear it up i was south of 26 in a tiffie at approx 10k ? with my only friendly base a long way to the north, NO friendly aircraft around meFalse, you were two on two. Gruenhertz and me versus you and B52 maybe? in a La5 I was at the start on the La5 but gruenherz (much to my disgust, I must admit), killed it when I had drained his E up. You werent alone. so you start with a lie.Bad start. Lets follow.
spotting a 109 on my six at about 8k i did not have many options but to turn North and try to blast through to a friendly base, by the time i had turned i was down to just over 25% fuel at about 200 knots with a very slight alt advantage nose on with RAM, SA check detected an enemy tiffie closing fast from my right about 1k below meJigster, I guess. Yeah he was also a bit pissed off by your "smart" flying and so he got a tiffie to give you some of your own medicine

. He was just airborne,tho, so that statement about a tiffie closing fast cant be true, anyway.
as we closed RAM just came straight on in dead on the nose. He did nothing to spoil a HO shotFalse. I did a 0 G dive under your nose. the proof I evaded is that you only got one ping (right flap gone). I had a 30mm on board and could have shot you out from the sky at the cost of my own skin. But I like to fly smart, not to be a (COUGH) HO dweeb.
he did nothing to work a lead turn, as we got closer he put his nose down slightly to pass under me which i usually interpret as an attempt to put lead into my belly as i pass over, i thought what the hell lets give him something to think about instead and fired, even so i dont believe i hit him with anything more than 1 shot if that.This is utterly and pure crap. AT this point I had done a 0G dive to go under your belly and force you overshoot me (0g dives spoils well the aim of the incoming HO dweeb). I then did a low G loop. Its called a merge in this world. Maybe you dont know it?.
About the "what the hell lets fire this guy", you are a lier. You had done at least 2 HO passes before on other planes (I think Jigster died this way and that was the reason because he was pissed). So you only did the same thing as before. I Call that a intentional HO, one against a 30mm gunned 109G10. But as I say I like the smart flying not Nintendo games...lets follow.
Being naturally combative and confident of my ability i did a SA check to find the Tiffie only 3k away and coming in fast, RAM was going vertical behind me in his 109.LOL I am very doubtful that Jig was closing in fast, he was just airborne

but this only can be confirmed by him
So if we run this from here, 25% fuel, 109 on my High 6, Tiffie closing fast from my right, long way to friendly base and no friendlies to help.109 on your 6. not high 6. Dont lie I was dead at your 6, and slow after an immelmann. And again I doubt that jig was closing up with your 375mph IAS typhoon.
Yea i guess i did aim for the nearest base and try to make it back with the 2 kills i already had, acquired with the age old Hit and Run technique, none of them were HO kills, they were kills because my targets did not have enuf SA to see me coming, yes they were already fighting my team mates and yes i picked them off without my team mates needing to call for a clear 6, but thats what team plays all about.I saw your "hit and running" on other planes before engaging you LOL!. you "hit" them in headons. Well at least you tried to kill them

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As for Ack hugging ? well i guess you would interpret a landing as Ack hugging, you constantly seem to try to put the worst interpretation upon everything anybody else does.The ack huggin thing has nothing to do with you. Its a completely different thing. And yes for a moment I thought you were going to hug ack, until I saw you landing. That was where I turned away.
I notice you have complained about lack of teamplay, well i constantly sacrifice myself and my score trying to take off and defend capped bases because I DO IT FOR THE TEAM.That was a general statement, referred at the lack of response on the missions I planned. Again, nothing to do with you.
How often do you help your team like this ?Spawn from capped fields? I ahve tons of films doing it. I dont fly for a score, that is why I fly lonewolf,that is why I dont ack hug and thats why I use to fight instead of running.
Then you have the cheek to constantly call me a Dweeb for using my SA and seeing a bad situation in time to avoid it.Bah...that is a simple excuse. I have been in your pants (yes,with a tiffie against a 6 con, a SpitfireIX), and I've extended, zoomed and turned back. I had fun and so he had...and I won.
Personally i think your the Dweeb for expecting a Tiffie to try and turn and fight with your High 190 especially with another enemy closing fast.I was in a 109G10. not a 190. I was at your six ,a bit higher,not much, but MUCH SLOWER. You had an E-advantage to work with. You ran home instead of fighting with your E-advantage. Dont tell me you disengaged to fight the odds. Typhoon can disengage at will from all planes only by diving to the deck and keep the run.
and BTW,G10 is not exactly the best turnfighter in the MA, still I dont refuse a close fight even with multiple targets, I extend and come back, you could have done it after your HO pass, to zoom away and dive on me. You ran home, instead of trying to fight. You had a 10K cushion to work with, altitude to exchange for speed if there was a need to run home. I have never called running deeb a plane that after trying to fight, used his superior speed to run away.
So do you want realistic play RAM or do you just want people to fly like idiots so you can get easy kills ?You were higher in E. you were faster. you could have BnZ me for at least 2 more passes. You ran home. That is not expect you to fly like an idiot, it is to expect you to fly SMART. you were in a typhoon ,the fastest plane on the deck, so you could've disengaged at will if forced to do. You gave up the battlefield before time. In real life thats cowardice. Here,too, it is.
After you spent many minutes calling me a HO Dweeb who has no idea how to fight, somebody suggested we swap planes and fly a duel, well no surprise when you ignored that 
I even asked if you would like to duel which you seemed to think funny at first, you even told how you duelled with Torque and because he is very good pilot he beat you, well unlike you i know what happens when i duel Torque in the training or free player arenas and i am confident enough to fly a duel with you IF you wish.
That is not a challenge or a hot headed attempt to kill you to show who has the biggest balls. I am too old for that sorta crap, but it would be nice to show that i know something about fighting 
You asked for a duel. I answered that people that I disrespect have no place for me in a duel. I have duelled zigrat and Torque before, after hot head happenings (one my fault other NOT my fault

). They are both great pilots that know how to fight. You have no idea of it and so I told you that the duel was rejected.
Earn my respect as you did once on the TA (yes I remember you bouncing my 75% loaded G10 with your G6, I was VERY near reversing tables most of the time...and I was always much lower in E.), and then I may think in a duel with you. I know you aren't better than me, saw the proof yesterday.
PS. Lifes too short so what happened yesterday is easily forgotten.heh...nice olive branch. Sad ,I wont bite. Think whatever you want of me. I have my own ideas about you,as I have already stated.
[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 08-29-2000).]