Missed opportunies: Bin Laden

[Nefarious]

Originally posted by Martlet
If he gave the directive, then why didn't he abide by it?

Why didnt GWB abide by it either?

[midnight Target]

You probably also read how the Sudan had him giftwrapped and Clinton said no thanks...

that's BS too.

[Thud]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
And you are pretty dense. I know you hate Bush and think he is hitler but you are seriouysly stupid if you dont think that OUR joint actions in Afghnistan and the GLOBAL war on terror havent hurt the terrorists in a major way. Be careful there, you are letting your ignorant hatred of Bush drive you to insult all the nations participating and working together hard in the post 911 war on terror, probably even your country....

You apparently know nothing about me, but anyway... I never said that Boosh's efforts didn't harm terrorism. I stated that someone who says that Clinton hunting OBL and his fellow-morons down would have stopped 911 and Madrid, but then states that killing him wouldn't have stopped the same events.

I.e. --> Hypocrit --> It's all Clinton's fault and GWB knows best!

[Martlet]

Originally posted by Nefarious
Why didnt GWB abide by it either?

As soon as he finds him, I'm sure he will.

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by midnight Target
You probably also read how the Sudan had him giftwrapped and Clinton said no thanks...

that's BS too.

So everything that maybe suggests clinton made a mistake or missed an opprtunity to capture bin laden was wrong or is a lie?

Err and yes I ment sudan,  not yemen. From what I read he lived rather openly in sudan at the time, much moreso than ion afghanistan a few yesrs later. That alone  would make it easier to nab him. I did read something bout what you said but it was inconclusive and seemed to be maybe too good to be true.

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by Thud
Oh really, GWB has being going after them for some time now.....
Has he stopped anything?

You're so transparent...

LATER YOU SAID:

I never said that Boosh's efforts didn't harm terrorism.

I'm sorry, but thats BS.... Or are you gonna argue that you litteraly did not type words to that effect or that "Has he stopped anything?" isnt loaded with meaning...

[Thud]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I'm sorry, but thats BS.... Or are you gonna argue that you litteraly did not type words to that effect or that "Has he stopped anything?" isnt loaded with meaning...

If you did read that post properly than you would have noticed that in the quoted part (which you of course did not copy) a very specific reference was made to 911 and Madrid, do you believe that Bush has stopped either of these?

Didn't think so

[GRUNHERZ]

Anything, by definition, is a non-specific general reference. So either you were imprecise in your wording or you meant exactly what yiu said, which is it?

BTW when you quote somebody's post on this BBS it does not automatically copy a previous quote, only their original words in response to it. So dont insinuate anything about my motives...

[LAWCobra]

NEWS FLASH!!!
All Presidents past and present are and have always been LIERS;)

You know when you tell your wife what she wants to hear to keep from getting into a fight.
Well there ya go thats what Presidents do but really more to satisfie to fat cats that paid for there election .
You see they have to keep the special intrest happy so they can re elected.

Aint been been an honest Prez since Washington.

[Nefarious]

Originally posted by Martlet
As soon as he finds him, I'm sure he will.

Unfortunatley the time when it mattered most it didnt happen Martlet.

Look I'm just trying to state that both administration's had there chance. It seems Clinton Blew it, since he had video evidence, But If this was major directive to capture/kill OBL, George Bush should have came into the ring swinging. If we were that close to him in the fall of 2000 then we werent to far behind him in the winter or spring of 2001.

[Thud]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Anything, by definition, is a non-specific general reference. So either you were imprecise in your wording or you meant exactly what yiu said, which is it?

It was the first, I should have said 'either of these' or 'anything about these'. You're absolutely right about that being formulated incorrectly.

That does not negate the circumstance that I am right about the Clinton-blaming though....

[Martlet]

Originally posted by Nefarious
Unfortunatley the time when it mattered most it didnt happen Martlet.

 

Really?  Which time was that?  The time we saw a tall guy in white?  Perhaps we should just change the directive to shoot all tall people?

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by Thud
It was the first, I should have said 'either of these' or 'anything about these'. You're absolutely right about that being formulated incorrectly.

That does not negate the circumstance that I am right about the Clinton-blaming though....

I agree, tough  I feel that Clinton passed on some opportunites to catch Bin Laden. But I'm more upset by the fact that he didnt purse bin laden more vigoursuly after the Cole attack or the African embassy bombings, regardless of any post 911 "what ifs". It would be unfair to blame 911 on clinton just as it would be on bush, it was a "system" screwup very much like Pearl Harbor.

[-MZ-]

Bush + Saudi Arabia = True Love

[GRUNHERZ]

How much of an impact our disputed election and the resultant delay in new governent  formation (think thousands of appointmests to key posts) had on any terror concerns or general international concerns late in 2000 and early 2001? Certainly I feel it distracted us and focused us inwards...