An Open letter to those who feel the need to Cheat.

[Swager]

Had same problem.  Maneuvering all around.  Got into position, lined up, as soon as I fired my guns the target zoomed ahead.

This happened about 6-7 times.  I finally got flamed.  During maneuvering, rock steady,  only warped when I fired my guns. Kinda weird!  

Oh Well, better luck next time!  

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Damn Ghostrider!  This bogey is all over me!!

[Dingy]

 

...the one Im peeved about causes a plane to STOP or FLOAT mid air for maybe 1 or 2 seconds then WARP to the direction he manuevered too (always a hard break left or right).

Guys, I ran into a Rook spit last night who was doing this very thing.  Funny thing was that everyone saw him.  This one, however, I dont think was warping on purpose.  I think he just had a bad connect.

Planes which warp like this are frequently sitting ducks since their plane is REAL easy to hit as they hang in mid air.  Those hits WILL register once he completes his warp.  I just find it alot easier to hit a stationary target than I do a moving one.

I just mention it for those considering cheating that it is NOT foolproof.

-Ding

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[Minotaur]

Fallen;

To answer your question About "Stick Stirring".  This is one method to induce a warp.  

Basically one "Thrashes" their controls, by moving them very fast in all directions.  This "Thrashing" confuses the FE display of other players. (Most likely, it is intended for the player doing the shooting by the player doing the "Stirring"   )  The other players see a warp on their FE, by the player who is "Stick Stirring".

AH has a resonable fix for this.  Your own FE detects if you "Thrash" your controls and essentially locks them up.  You might have noticed the infamous "Don't move your controls so rapidly" message.

Hope this answers your question.  Good Luck to you.  

Merry Christmas!

Mino

[humble]

While a majority of "warping" is unintentional and related to connect issues I do believe that intentional warping is a real issue. Usually you can tell by the parties response. I know last night it came up with me. I was in a 205 and one of my (all to rare) victims asked if I warpy since I "bounced" from his view. His buddies assured him that provided a nice steady target for them  . We both relogged to make sure all was right.

Some type of policy may be required if the intentional warping gets out of hand.

[Yeager]

I have seen some warping in AH.  It usually occurs only when I am very close to the target.  Warping at this close range is usually predictable enough to get off lethal shots anyway and sometimes it is not.  On a few occasions I believe that particular
gamers experience particularily bad moments of connection or are having some system lapses regarding HarDrive access rates.  I do not think line squeezers or any other such hacking crap-eaters are a big problem at this time.

At certain times I too get momentary freeze frame during critical manueovers.  I have no doubt that during these slight momentary pauses, any fellow behind me sees my point warp.

Also, I do not think any one of the several hundred people I have waxed this tour are cheaters.

Yeager

[suppo-]

This should be part of the flight sim motto for the professionals:

While we all can't "control" our connection, we can all know that it is not the best and "announce" that on open channel, particularly, if we have just engaged the enemy.

I haven't seen enough of that behavior, but a simple transmission of "beacons" over the open channel would suffice.  Over a period of time this would help.

I have 5 handles on my list to watch closely in WB.  I hope, now that I have my  new computer and can play AH, I don't have to keep a list for Aces High.  I take pictures of of in-flight visuals and the logs.  When I have enough info, I send it along to the appropriate people.

I also contact the person on private at the time to get their side of the issue.


suppo-

[Extreme]

RE:frame freezing

The only times this happens to me is when FindFast kicks off.  If you don't know, it's part of MSOffice.  It's started from the Startup folder and sits in the background indexing documents every 3 hours (on my PC).  

When it kicks in, your hard disk spins up and causes screen stutters and probably warps at the other end.

Use CTRL-ALT-DEL to "End Task" it before you play AH or of course remove it from your AH windows profile startup.

Just my 2c worth...

Ex.

[Fishu]

Duckwing: Little note for everyone about ADSL, cable modem etc.
Even with huge megagiga bandwith line, warps can occur if route from ISP to destination sucks...

I have 33.6k modem, but only thing that bothers me is 260-300ms, without lost packets, so, no warps   (isn't that quite acceptable anyways from beyond atlantic ocean...)

[Torque]

I was there during that point in time, of accusation zone.
Five years of flightsims, and I’ve seen a lot of twilightzone occurrences.
That was a weird night I watched Dotsie (who I totally respect) warp away from me swear to God I nailed him good (when he was in B-17) twice, only to have him get a kill message of me.
This almost prompted me to ask him his pingtime, I checked mine and it was 76 ms.
Then I decided to experiment with something set a p51’s guns to 500,TO’d went looking for him again.
Spotted my prey (well I thought) closed in at about 450 IAS opened guns up at d 9,got a nice solid pattern at d7 and a sustain burst. From all my experience in AH I thought for sure he shoulda blown, nope he got me.
So I gave him the <finger> and bastage message, heh tried it again in a Nik same scenario he got me again”bastage”.
The morale of the story (other than never engage dotsie) is that I saw a lot of warpage that nite and anything can happen on the Internet.
(just like everyone in a chat room tends to describe themselves as Pamela Anderson look alike dunno how that happens but it dose) I wouldn’t know Dotty told me so.

Just keep a salt shaker by your puter and throw it over your shoulder once in awhile like me.

[dawg]

When I come across this I just break off the fight. Really doesn't matter what caused it; it just ain't worth the dyspepsia.

[Shepard121]

Re: Fast Find
You can disable this in CONTROL PANELS>FAST FIND and change your interval to never.  For a gaming machine, Fast find has no practical value... and very little on a home computer.

Win98 users can RUN MSCONFIG and go to the startup tab and uncheck it from there..and any other barnicles marked for auto startup. (Real Player, Real Jukebox are two examples)

Hope this helps,
Shep

[LLv34_Snefens]

Does any of the people in this thread that are certain that they encountered a intentional warper have a film of the incident?

Well besides that ,I must say that I have yet to encounter an opponent that I have suspected of intentionally messing up his connection in any of my online games, but I certainly know about warping and lag in online play being a European Air War 'veteran' (read 'playing it online before v1.2').

In AH I have felt that connection was pretty good, although I have sometime seen some warping (btw I always see a warp when a plane reaches 3-4K, but believing this to be AH changing rate of data-transmission or something like that, and it doesn't bother me. Am i right?), but would like to know if people here would shoot at players that obviously has connection problem.
I am here not talking about warping, as they can be hard enough to hit, but people simply drifting strangly in the air (Have seen planes drifting with 300 mph with AoA at 90 degree for long time).
As my modem sometime have total blackouts - simply pausing all transmissions for 10-20 secs - I know that hits taken during this period will strike you with full power when your connection "catch up", and often cause your death?

Chivalry is something I often miss to see in AH.

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LLv34 Snefens
RO, Lentolaivue 34

[indian]

Hey guys Fishu is right I have ADSL and live 1 mile from HTC I have had warping to the point I knew it was me. I had two hops that were going high (ping rates) from net load.

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[shower]

how about other methods of cheating, like those that fly near mountains, and when someone gets on their six, they extend gear and land on the side of the mounain!  this causes their plane to do a controlled 'jackknife' which has the effect of instantly reversing their direction.  the end result is they get a HO shot than jacknife again to get on your six as you pass by.  somehow i don't think you can do this in real life.  i was killed twice like this and to put it mildly it's irritating.

-shower

[Freelancer]

"Wha'choo talkin' 'bout, shower?"

I guess I don't get what you described. They *land* on a mountain? Can't you only land on runways? And how do you jackknife? You taxi around? what? Use momentum?


-Freelancer