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« Reply #45 on: March 23, 2004, 12:56:42 AM »
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Bruce Lee would kick Mr. Miagi's ass. ;)

Lived in Okinawa for 6 years, practiced Shorin Ryu on and off long enough to get a 2nd degree brown belt. The Supreme Master of the style is/was a little old man that is hard as rock.



Mr. Miagi is called 'Mr.' for a reason.

He is the all powerful, all seeing, all knowing Karate actor. Yes, it is true that Pat Morita would die at the hands of Bruce Lee, but nobody, and I mean nobody, can touch Mr. Miagi, especially not a blonde high-school bully from Beverly Hills.

Plus, he is good with Bonzai trees, eluding to a deeper, mysterious connection with nature that must translate into some degree of heightened asskicking ability the likes of which no amount of consumed dim-sum could help the Lee of Bruce.

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« Reply #46 on: March 23, 2004, 03:18:00 AM »
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Oh and FYI Karate Is from Okinawa.


Watched "The Karate Kid" have we?

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« Reply #47 on: March 23, 2004, 10:51:52 AM »
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Chow Yun-Fat is one of my all time fav actors (despite Anna and the King), but he isn't a "karate" actor....it's like calling Tom Cruise a favourite martial artist actor because he did Last of the Samurai
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Actually, Chow Yun Fat is a master of that greatest of all martial arts: Gun Fu (for an explanation of this, please watch the following movies: The Killer, Hard Boiled, and A Better Tomorrow I and II).

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« Reply #48 on: March 23, 2004, 11:28:22 AM »
Doctor Klahn from the Kentucky Fried Movies's "Fist full of Yen"

he's got my vote...


Dr. Klahn, "Take him to Detroit"

CIA agent, "No No.......  Not Detroit...ahhhh"


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« Reply #49 on: March 25, 2004, 07:03:52 AM »
Interesting thread.

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Chuck Norris would be a Moo-duk-kwan actor


 Chuck Norris statrted out with Tae Kwon Do, or rather, it's premature form at "Moo-duk-kwan". Tae Kwon Do, contrary to what people believe, unfortunately for Koreans and out self-esteem, has no direct relation with the ancient martial arts of the Korean peninula.

 In the periods between 1910~1945, Korea was under Imperial Japanese rule as a colony, and many Korean students went to Japan to study in modern science and arts, and some of them were unbiasedly(and thankfully) taught by great Karate teachers of the time, such as Kichin Funagoshi. Like someone said, Karate itself is a relatively pretty young martial art, and it did originate from Okinawa, which was called Ryukyu and existed as a separate kingdom which was not a part of the Japan.

 Karate standardized and modernized its ancestral counter part which originated in Ryukyu, and the Korean students of Karate, after gaining independance in 1945,  optimized it as the form currently known, concentrating in kicks rather than punches. Some of the students did not go that path, and chose to stay with Karate - such as Oyama Matsudatsu, a Korean Choi Young-Eui, who became the legendary founder of the Kokujin-ryu Karate.

 In the mean while, the former students of Karate organized themselves in five major schools, and "Moo-duk-kwan" was one of them.

("Moo", meaning 'military/martial', and equivalent of the Chinese "Wu" as in "Wushu", and Japanese "Bu" as in "Bushido". "Duk" means a combined concept difficult to translate to English - "integrity/compassion/right minded..", and "Kwan" meaning "place/school" - "The School of Integral Martial Arts" sounds about right as a translation)

 The true ancient heritage of Korean martial arts, today, now rests in Tekkyun - also a form martial art concentrating in mainly the art of kicking, but which characterizes itself in its unique "rythm" of fighting which some people might familiarize with the Brazilian martial art of Capoeira. Also, the kicks in Tekkyun are mostly "non-lethal", concentrating in neutralizing the enemy rather than harming him. A series of rythmic tripping, pushing, stopping, the enemy using feet.

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Sammo Hung kicks ass... and taught Jackie half of what Sammo knows.


 Interestingly, Sammo Hung, Jackie Chan, and Bruce Lee have a common origin as an actor. Bruce Lee was the first of the new generation of action stars Hong Kong has produced. Bruce Lee was the top star of the Golden Harvest Pictures, and Sammo Hung worked under him as a martial arts choreographer. After Bruce Lee's death, Sammo Hung became one of the director of martial arts, and choreographed Bruce Lee's movements, teaching the stand-in look-alike's of Bruce Lee to finish the film "The Game of Death".

 Also in those days, in Golden Harvest, was Jackie Chan in his younger ages, working as an extra guy. In the "Fist of Death"(known as "The Chinese Connection" outside Hong Kong. "Fist of Death" was the name given to the "Big Boss" outside of Hong Kong), Jackie Chan appears for a brief moment as "the guy getting beat up by Bruce Lee" ;) Guess where!

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...however Jet Li is fairly impressive


 Jet Li, or Lee Ren-Jee is a five-time tournament champion of the Shao-lin tournaments of China.

 After the Chinese Revolution, and the Cultural revolution of Mao, the Shao-lin temple of China was considered a gathering place for feudalistic retros and was under a lot of close inspection and oppression. After the death of Mao, China was quick to realize it had a chance to develop into a major tourist attraction, not to mention they started caring about their cultural heritages. Jet-li was never a Shao-lin monk, but he did learn from the martial arts school run by Shao-lin monks themselves, which talented young people were given a chance to admittance, sponsored by the government. Jet-li was one of them.
 
 
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Mr. Miagi is called 'Mr.' for a reason.

He is the all powerful, all seeing, all knowing Karate actor. Yes, it is true that Pat Morita would die at the hands of Bruce Lee, but nobody, and I mean nobody, can touch Mr. Miagi, especially not a blonde high-school bully from Beverly Hills.

Plus, he is good with Bonzai trees, eluding to a deeper, mysterious connection with nature that must translate into some degree of heightened asskicking ability the likes of which no amount of consumed dim-sum could help the Lee of Bruce.


 And what is truly ironic, is Pat Morita never learned any kind of martial arts. In interviews, he exclaimed that it felt so funny to play the role of the teacher, when behind the scenes, he had to learn more about Karate than the disciple had to! :)

 
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Actually, Chow Yun Fat is a master of that greatest of all martial arts: Gun Fu


 Chow Yun Fat is an all-round actor, but not a martial artist. In China(or rather, Hong Kong), martial arts is a sort of a mandatory, prerequisite course to people who wish to take up acting as a living. He did learn that, but did not learn in any single school, nor did he ever consider himself to be a serious fighter rather than an actor.


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« Reply #50 on: March 25, 2004, 07:20:15 AM »
THIS is a funny thread :D

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« Reply #51 on: March 25, 2004, 08:48:05 AM »
fortunately there are only a couple of people in the world of LAW caliber out there.  And they will never enter a fight because they are way too disiplined and superior human beings.

I have seen a whole lot of fights in my day.... NEVER seen a real fight where anything like martial arts were used.   Seen a couple of guys who claimed to be martial artists but they were fighting about like the other guy towards the (their) end..  

hitting forarms together hurts... so does hitting fists together or hitting the top of someones head or having your nose smashed flat or hitting someone with a broken hand or getting your ribs broken by a steel toed boot or... having a couple of teeth broken.   heck... even something as mild as being thrown into a table hurts.   In fact...

it seems to me that, win or lose... every fight I ever been in hurt.

lazs

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« Reply #52 on: March 25, 2004, 08:53:18 AM »
what brand of gun have you bought this week lazs2?

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« Reply #53 on: March 25, 2004, 09:29:01 AM »
Very interesting Kweassa,

I was told many years ago, while studying it, that Tae Kwon Do was a corean art, or so was said by my teachers, formers students of Park Young Gil (I saw him once in a demo, amaizing what an old little trained guy can do :eek: ).

Is a surprise that Jet lee is a shaolin style, I'll have to look him closer, shaolin has always made me courious.

Since I have praticed some Ai Ki Do, I am partial to Steven Segal.

Myt list:

Bruce Lee (The Mith)
Jakie Chan (the funnier, and work without counterfigure, too).
Steven Segal
Jet Li
Sammu something

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« Reply #54 on: March 25, 2004, 10:14:17 AM »
Nanbudo (alot)
Aikido (some)
Kick Boxing (some)

Best actor: steven segal for actual skills but none are good actors imo.

Jean Frenette anyone? ;)

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« Reply #55 on: March 25, 2004, 10:19:21 AM »
Gay guy VanDamme.

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« Reply #56 on: March 25, 2004, 11:11:53 AM »
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fortunately there are only a couple of people in the world of LAW caliber out there.  And they will never enter a fight because they are way too disiplined and superior human beings.

I have seen a whole lot of fights in my day.... NEVER seen a real fight where anything like martial arts were used.   Seen a couple of guys who claimed to be martial artists but they were fighting about like the other guy towards the (their) end..  

hitting forarms together hurts... so does hitting fists together or hitting the top of someones head or having your nose smashed flat or hitting someone with a broken hand or getting your ribs broken by a steel toed boot or... having a couple of teeth broken.   heck... even something as mild as being thrown into a table hurts.   In fact...

it seems to me that, win or lose... every fight I ever been in hurt.

lazs


Have to agree, most karate matches I've watched or participated in resembled boxing more than what you see in the movies.
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« Reply #57 on: March 25, 2004, 11:12:01 AM »
That's very interesting Kweassa.  Did you know that Pat Morita's stand-in during the scene where Mr. Miagi intervenes on the karate kid's behalf...when the group of boys were giving chase in their skeleton outfits... was none other than UK Shotokan master K. Enoida?



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« Reply #58 on: March 25, 2004, 11:15:13 AM »
As far as real fighting goes I think the gracie brothers have the best system.

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« Reply #59 on: March 25, 2004, 11:16:49 AM »
Has anyone ever seen an old Japanese martial arts film? Unlike Chinese martial arts, wherre the fight scene lasts for 5 minutes, there isint as much melee in karate. Usually there's ONE devastating move, and someone then takes 5 minutes to die from his wounds.

At least the ones I saw were like that. They didnt f**k around at ALL..