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Offline Nilsen

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« Reply #90 on: March 27, 2004, 06:09:57 AM »
Judo is more wrestling than a martial art imo. its less complex and that is why it is so popular and alot easyer to master.  

In a fight without the rules a jiu-jitsu or aikido MASTER would beat the judo MASTER every time. Perhaps a controversial statement but...

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« Reply #91 on: March 27, 2004, 09:17:11 AM »
kwea.. I agree.   Size is the most important thing.. along with upper body strength and the stomach for the fight.   A boxer is gonna hurt you if you give him half a chance tho.  They hit hard and fast.  Most fights seem to start out as boxing and either end quickly or turn into wresling/judo , whatever you want to call it... Still... nothing beats using the landscape and everything around you to smash the opponent into... the softest floor is harder and more durable than my fist.  

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« Reply #92 on: March 28, 2004, 12:15:47 AM »
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kwea.. I agree. Size is the most important thing.. along with upper body strength and the stomach for the fight. A boxer is gonna hurt you if you give him half a chance tho. They hit hard and fast. Most fights seem to start out as boxing and either end quickly or turn into wresling/judo , whatever you want to call it... Still... nothing beats using the landscape and everything around you to smash the opponent into... the softest floor is harder and more durable than my fist.


 Yeah.. undeniable fact.

 That's what martial arts have been trying to overcome for thousands of years :)



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Judo and Aikido were both developed from Ju-Jitsu.

Ju-Jitsu can be traced back 2000 years and is referred to in Japan as the father martial art.

However, when Judo first came about in the late 1800s the founder of Judo (a Ju-Jitsu master) challenged a local Ju-Jitsu dojo to a tournament. The Judo students won pretty much every fight..........which is kinda ego deflating considering I studied Ju-Jitsu for 14 years and my best friends mother was a Judo black belt


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In a fight without the rules a jiu-jitsu or aikido MASTER would beat the judo MASTER every time. Perhaps a controversial statement but...


 To elaborate a bit..

 The origins of jujitsu is not clear. It does not have a singular point of origin which can be traced like Karate or Tae Kwon Do. The first really historical mention of jujitsu appears in the account of Shiragi Saburo Minamoto Yoshimitsu and his martial arts which have been passed down between the 11th~12th century of Japan.

 After that, the martial art of jujitsu disappears, or rather, becomes 'fragmented' and resurfaces in the form of secondary form of unarmed combat which the samurai must learn, in various sword dojos. There were literally hundreds of different schools of swordfighting in Japan, and all of those schools taught different versions of jujitsu. These sort of jujitsu came to be known as "go-ryu jujitsu", meaning "ancient jujitsu" - it's not a specific term of a certain school, but rather a term for the entire sect of jujitsu as a total.

 And then, came the modern jujitsu.

 In the 19th century, an optimized form of incredible jujitsu as never seen before resurfaced in Japan. The legendary master Takeda Sogaku, a decendant of the famous warlord Takeda Shingen of the 16th century,  began touring Japan, teaching the art known as "Dai-To Ryu Aiki Jujitsu", which became the direct ancestor of modern day aikido.

 The Dai-To Ryu is traced back to the Satsuma province of Japan, as a martial arts taught in secret for generations in the Saigo family. In the 19th century, Saigo Danomo and Saigo Dakamori were one of the key players of the Meichi coup which restored the Emperor to power. And then, the Saigo family rebelled again against the government of modern Japan.

 It is said, that as the rebellion met its last phases and the Saigo family was faced with total destruction, the lords of the Saigo family taught all of their secrets to Takeda Sogaku.

 By that time, in the 19th century, the modern judo surfaced in the school of Kotokan - and they had a one legendary hero, Saigo Shiro. Saigo Shiro was a legendary judo master, and it is probably his account Swoop mentions. I don't think it's much to be ego-deflated about - as the importance of Saigo Shiro would be something akin to the importance of people like Muhammad Ali to the boxing world. In short, Saigo Shiro, is like the Erich Hartmann of 19th century martial arts world of Japan. :)

 Master Takeda was aware of judo, and while never in public, he fiercely considered Kotokan and Judo as its main rival. People studying in Aikido may well note the key difference between Aikido and Judo in the way how they de-balance the opponent and suppress him.

 Master Takeda never formed a school of his own, but nearing his death, the last pupil he took underhim was the young Ueshiba Morihei, who would become the founder of Aikido in the latter days.

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« Reply #93 on: March 28, 2004, 02:03:03 AM »
Interesting history lesson there Kvaessa.

thx

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« Reply #94 on: March 28, 2004, 04:45:43 AM »
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Steven Segal.!!!!..I thought he was highest rated Black Belt Akido in USA??

His x wife is the the teacher or master or manager of a School in Japan.._Think the only "American" to run a school there..


Why hasn't anyone given a history of S.S.?

Anyways..I always love the part in the movie where the blonde jumps out of the cake....."God if you are here...I LOVE those titties":)


Oh yaa..HARD BOILED...one of best movies outthere...also. The Seven Deadly Venoms..

I had a movie rental card for a STRicTLy Asian Video store...HAD sooooo many classic Kung Fu Kik ur aSSSSES  movies..

I coudl go on for long tiem..but one other Highlite was a movie about a Cop/Detecive who Beat his coQ every day..liek you woudl see Shaolin Monks practicing...but hes doing this with his unit....He then proceeds to "extract information" from..women...by means of sex...He woudl have the chik in a fishing net ..spinning around on his unit....he would have his lackeys..pulling up and down on the rope holding the chik up in the net...When he would stop screwing hear..she would beg and do anything/ tell him what he wanted ...if he didnt stop...lmfao..dam funny fliks

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« Reply #95 on: March 28, 2004, 05:09:51 AM »
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Originally posted by LAWCobra
I have worked as a bouncer in country bars and titty bars.
There worst arse whoopin I got was trying to settle a dispute between two dancers over tips.

Those mean biotches kicked my arse:(

And I have had people come at me with baseball bats pool cues
Pool balls knives you name it.
Trust me you dont ever wanna get it the middle of two coke potatos going at it in a cat fight.


You just can't help it. Why?

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« Reply #96 on: March 28, 2004, 06:03:46 AM »
Kweassa, thank you very much for the infos, keep it coming !!

:)

Sensei Kweassa-san, domo arigato.

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« Reply #97 on: March 28, 2004, 06:31:42 AM »
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Saigo Shiro was a legendary judo master, and it is probably his account Swoop mentions.  



Actually I was referring to Dr. Jigoro Kano.

In his youth Kano studied Ju-Jitsu under a number of different masters. Sensei Teinosuke Yagi was his first teacher, but at the age of 18 he entered the dojo of Tenshin-Shinyo Sensei Hachinosuke Fukuda. Upon graduation from Tokyo University, he studied the Kito tradition under Sensei Iikubo. By his mid-twenties, Kano had been initiated into the secret teachings of both ryus.

Kano's search for a unifying principle for the techniques he learned led him to the first principle of Judo - Seiryoku Zenyo (maximum efficiency in mental and physical energy). To propagate his art Kano founded the Kodokan (the "school to learn the way") at the Eishoji Temple in 1882.

The Kodokan Judo dojo was recognized a few years later to be excellent since its students overwhelmed the Ju-Jitsu athletes at the 1886 Tokyo Police Bujitsu Contest.


Not that I'm trying to sing the praises of Judo........

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« Reply #98 on: March 28, 2004, 08:21:49 AM »
I've only seen two fights in which martial arts were used and they both ended in KO's about a second after they started. One was in the barracks when I was in basic.
 The other was when a guy made the mistake of putting his hand on an off duty cop as she just turned to walk away from him and his woman who were appearantly fighting. His lights were out before he hit the pavement.

If I had to pick a martial art I'd pick kuk sool won, it's not a sport and it's pretty all-encompassing.

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« Reply #99 on: March 28, 2004, 08:42:01 AM »
back to the movies... they are fun to watch but... not sure that anorexic women kicking the crap outa 220 lb men is the right message to send to kids...  Think it is bad for women in general... I really don't think the movie media cares about good and bad tho..

as for the 'hard boiled' type asian gun operas...  Also fun to watch but every bit as phony as the martial arts ones... guys fireing two handguns at once while leaping across a room... guys getting hit 10 times with bullets to the torso and still fighting... magazines with 30 or more rounds etc.

As a test I loaded up my witness 45 acp and my Kimber 45 and fired em both as fast as I could at the same time...

My sone son is 6'2 and 250 lbs and he tried it too... didn't look like the movies.

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« Reply #100 on: March 28, 2004, 09:42:31 AM »
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Originally posted by Creamo
You just can't help it. Why?


Maybe it's the "falling in love with an internet pornstar fever."

I'd Lie To You For Your Love[/i][/size]

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I watched you walk into the room
I wanna say this just right
If you ain't waiting for somebody special
Would you be with me tonight
I'm a doctor, I'm a lawyer
I'm a movie star, I'm an astronaut
And I own this bar

And I would lie to you for your love
Yes I'd lie to you for your love
I'd lie to you for your love
And that's the truth

I could tell you what you wanna hear
And some secrets about myself
I could tell you you're the only one
And there could never be nobody else
I'm a doctor, I'm a lawyer
I'm a movie star, I'm an astronaut
And I own this bar

And I would lie to you for your love
Yes I'd lie to you for your love
I'd lie to you for your love
And that's the truth

I'm a doctor, I'm a lawyer
I'm a movie star, I'm an astronaut
And I own this bar

And I would lie to you for your love
Yes I'd lie to you for your love
I'd lie to you for your love
And that's the truth

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« Reply #101 on: March 28, 2004, 09:53:26 AM »
Though my claim was nothing to brag about I'd rather not be thought a liar. Pics are easy to fake but here's the only evidence I can offer.



Not me, the guy I mentioned. ;)
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« Reply #102 on: March 28, 2004, 09:59:02 AM »
I am a Master in the ancient Hebrew art of I Sue. Karate guys might be able to beat me up, but I will heal- and then I will break you forever.

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« Reply #103 on: March 28, 2004, 10:49:09 AM »
I know mexican judo.

Judont know if I have a knife, judont know if I have a gun.

Hehe that's an oldie but a goodie

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« Reply #104 on: March 28, 2004, 11:46:22 AM »
Not you Iron. :D