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Offline Naso

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« Reply #255 on: March 25, 2004, 03:59:08 AM »
Re: Hajo's post, quoted by Staga:

The sad thing is that a loigic has prevailed, but it's not the logic we seem more or less to share here, is another logic, a logic in wich the human life is worth nothing, the logic of the first world war assaults for 50 meters of ground, the acceptability of 50% and more of losses for nothing.

The logic that want a war to bring running an economy.

The logic that is based on a "We OR Them" and not a "We AND Them".

Just think about the people, linked with (and sometime is the same) people in the governments (or sismilar structures), the get rich and richier with theese kind of situations, even in the little things, from the black market to the big industries.

In this kind of world, with that kind of logic, each Hamas's bombing, each Israeli's hellfire, each WTC or Madrid, each Iraq invasion is just another victory, another step for their "perfect" world.

We?

We are cannon fodder, no more than the Palestinian child, the Israel boy, the WTC worker, the Madrid commuter, the coalition soldier.

Who's next we will be ordered to hate?

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« Reply #256 on: March 25, 2004, 06:08:52 AM »
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Originally posted by Nilsen10
I understand that it gets more personal when they try to kill you bozon but continual revenge from both sides is never gonna solve anything. I stand by my statement bozon, and that is prolly because i dont have any stong feelings for neither side in this conflict. I do however have strong feelings about the methods used both by your goverment and of course by the terrorist you have to deal with.


I agree with this completely.
I don't side either way.
I don't like extremists from either side.
My objections are to those that put all Palestinians in the same group, calling them all evil bastards is just BS.

I don't consider the regular joes from both sides as the problem.
The problem is the leaders on both sides, they do no seem to know the meaning of logic.
They don't seem to realize that revenge is hollow.
It will not bring back your loved ones from the cold.

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« Reply #257 on: March 27, 2004, 04:08:59 AM »
AVRO1

looks like you silenced everyone :)

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« Reply #258 on: March 27, 2004, 05:45:56 AM »
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AVRO1

looks like you silenced everyone :)


I think they just got tired of posting about it.

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« Reply #259 on: March 27, 2004, 06:17:18 AM »
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Originally posted by ramzey
Eagler , you are strange man
one day you protest against blood on windshield in AH2, next one you are happy beucose 8 people die during suirgical military "operation".


Happy?

I am relieved a murderous rat was wiped off the face of this earth and proud of Israel for having the guts to do it

but thanks for telling me what I feel :rolleyes:

so for the interruption, back to the left and euros support for the pals and their terror ways ... mean ole Israel...
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« Reply #260 on: March 27, 2004, 05:30:03 PM »
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so for the interruption, back to the left and euros support for the pals and their terror ways ... mean ole Israel...


Who said anything about supporting the terrorists?
No one did, because we do not consider all of them terrorists.

Until you can make the distinction between the Palestinians civillians and the terrorists you will get this reaction from us.
When you have made the distinction, then come back and we can have a discussion.

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« Reply #261 on: March 27, 2004, 05:45:22 PM »
He is either bating or just cant understand the difference. Either way its sad.

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« Reply #262 on: March 27, 2004, 07:04:26 PM »
Maybe it's his religion.












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« Reply #263 on: March 28, 2004, 01:48:13 AM »
i better be careful then, religion is so whoopeeed holy to everyone :p

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« Reply #264 on: March 28, 2004, 01:23:50 PM »
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Originally posted by AVRO1
Who said anything about supporting the terrorists?
No one did, because we do not consider all of them terrorists.

Until you can make the distinction between the Palestinians civillians and the terrorists you will get this reaction from us.
When you have made the distinction, then come back and we can have a discussion.


We say you are supporting the terrorists because you make excuses for terrorism, and you try to equate the Israelis to the terrorists.

Example #1:
Suicide bomber kills 15 Israeli schoolchildren.

Your response:
This is horrible and we do not support them BUT we have to try to understand why this happens yada yada.

Example #2:
Israeli AH-64 Gunship fires hellfire missile on Hamas leader, killing him, five of his bodyguards and two innocent bystanders.

Your response:
This is horrible and the Israelis will reap what they sow. They behave just like the terrorists, in fact they ARE just as bad as the terrorists. NOW do you understand why the Pals are so angry. This is all the Israelis fault.

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« Reply #265 on: March 28, 2004, 02:41:38 PM »
Life must be so simple for you Hortlund.

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« Reply #266 on: March 29, 2004, 11:42:54 AM »
Hortlund, I have never said that Israel deserved suicide bombings.  What I have said is that Hamas will want revenge.

I make no excuses, I only said what it is like for Palestinians.
The problem is that extremists convince people that the only ones responsible for the situation is Israel.
After that it becomes easy to convince them to do something stupid like blowing themselves up.

The problem is extremists on both side.
A Jewish extremist killed Rabbin in 1995.
That guy is as much an idiot as Arafat and Yassin.
Those are the guys I have a problem with, not the general population of Israel or Palestine.

I do not support extremists from either side.
I support the moderates on both sides equally.


TROLL AWAY HORTY.

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« Reply #267 on: March 29, 2004, 12:31:42 PM »
Moderate Palestinians?  Where?
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