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Offline Karnak

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I just had my most aggravating evening in AH so far.
« on: May 29, 2001, 10:50:00 PM »
I decided to fly an A6M5b, and through the course of 3 flights saw nothing but La-7s (50+%), P-51Ds, Fw190D-9s and Bf109G-10s.  I may as well not have been there as they were pretty much ignoring me.  The Rooks around me were flying the same aircraft and they fights were always going way faster than I could get my Zero to go, even when I dove.

To cap it, I finally got a P-51D to turn with me and another Rook in a fast plane zips by and blows my P-51 apart.

I am sick of 360+mph-on-the-deck aircraft.  No mid-war aircraft will be able to survive in this environment.  The Mosquito that I want so badly will be a sitting duck in front of the Fw190D-9s and Bf109G-10s that it so rarely fought in WWII and for the P-51s, Typhoons, La-7s, La-5FNs, Tempests, Yak-9Us, P-47s and F4U-1s that it never fought in WWII.

The only two British aircraft that would be competitive now, so far as I can tell, would be the Spitfire MkXIV and Meteor MkIII.

The Mosquito, Beaufighter, Hurricane, Me410A or B, P-40, J2M3, Re.2005, MiG-3, Ki44, P-39, Ki102, ect, ect, will all be neat-but-useless because of the over-common speed demons.

Am I frustrated, ya, I am.  I am frustrated enough to have briefly contemplated canceling my account (then reason took hold ).  I am frustrated because the last two versions, while adding neat and needed fixes, really haven't offered anything rejuvenating for me.  I'm not getting anymore bang for my buck in 1.07 than I was in 1.05, in many ways I am getting less because of how much the MA sped up after 1.06 was introduced.  Perk planes cost so much that they are useless to me.  None of the aircraft added in the last 2 versions are of particular interest to me, although some I felt needed to be added for general use and fairness reasons.

Consider this a rant on one players frustrations.  Comment as you will.  My ramblings are done for now.

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Offline Citabria

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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2001, 10:55:00 PM »
you know what I enjoy after being mobbed by la7's, p-51s and gaggles in general in a mid war aircraft that cant run?


I get the meanest baddest plane in AH and I fly into a cloud of red Icons and emerge on the other side with 2-3 kills and 12 la7s chasing me  


Tempest

when you absolutely have to kill everything and not get shot down nothing else in AH comes close...

that is until the Me262 arives.
that will be a great stress reliever  
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Offline Swoop

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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2001, 12:11:00 AM »
Unfortunately I agree with both of the above posts.  


Come on HTC, lets have some fantastic piece of gaming innovation and a few early war planes.  The most fun I ever had online was in EAW, me in a Hurricane v 2 109Es at 25k.  And I won.  

No bloody chance in here, every sod and his dog is flying something waaaaay too fast for early war aircraft to stand up to.  And while we're on the subject, why isnt the LA7 perked?

 

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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2001, 02:10:00 AM »

 I agree.
 
 In terms of speed, performance, abundance.. the La-7 SHOULD be perked. Maybe the FW-190D with it. Dunno about P-51D and BF-109G10..

 Judging from the mediocre pilot's point of view(unlike so many so-called EXPERT pilots out there..), The P-51D and BF-109G10 I find is a very hard and difficult plane to fly.. One mistake and yer most likely downhill and can never come back up. LA-7s and FW-190Ds seem, comparatively, VERRRY forgiving as it is powerful in numerous aspects..

 I don't care about N1K2-Js nor F4U-1Cs. They don't bother me. Getting shot down by which aircraft has the least relevance to this matter one can think of. Hell, I get shot down by all kinds of aircraft.

 The LA-7 and FW-190D DESERVES a perk. They're very powerful in the hands of a good pilot, and still a threat even in the hands of a cheap-shot rookie pilot.

 If I find a rookie flying a P-51D or maybe Bf-109G10, I'd gladly take them on whether they are higher or lower. But if I find an La-7 or a FW-190D, I find myself running at first sight more often than I can imagine.

 Late-war monstrosities deserve a decent perk. Maybe HTC can lower the perk points needed in Tempests simultaneously, as well as setting up perk points for La-7 and FW-190D. That'd help resolve the discontent spread around some people(rolls eyes).

 

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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2001, 02:30:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by Kweassa:
LA-7s and FW-190Ds seem, comparatively, VERRRY forgiving as it is powerful in numerous aspects..

Compared to what? La7 itself is radically forgiving compared to D9 at lo/med altitudes.
As far as planes I flought, the only forgiving compared to anything plane is a well flown Spit IX (surprisingly fast at med and hi altitudes). So what? perk the Spit?


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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2001, 03:37:00 AM »
YOU people must be all NEWBIES, NoT ME !

If YOU have trouble FIGHTIN' other planes, take SPITFIRE. Then other planes are JUST OTHER TARGETZ !

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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2001, 03:46:00 AM »
PLease excuse the l33t spitfire quaker forgive him because he has not the brains to try ACM.

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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2001, 04:03:00 AM »
Gentlemen, have patience please.  Please remember this is an ongoing development.  Just think how far we have come in one short year!  I don't think I have to point out the improvements and additions to the sim.  Down the road, as I've posted before, as the community grows I believe there will be an early war arena.  The number of participants in this sim are growing steadily, new arenas similar to the MA are going to be needed.  It took years also for Air Warrior to have 5 or 6 different arenas to be used, however word of mouth has attracted many here in not that long a period of time.  Patience, I believe and early war arena is in the future.
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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2001, 06:36:00 AM »
Ahhh... I see Karnak is starting to hit his first "burnout" phase.

Every veteran pilot goes thru it, and if you stick around, you go thru it regularly. Take some time off, don't fly so much, and come back in a month or two.

On to the "late war speed monster..." arguement.

Strange, but last time I saw the usage numbers the Niki and Spit IX were the two most used planes, not the La7 or Dora. And I wouldn't call either of them speed demons.

Hard to find a good turnfight? You must fly in a different arena than I do, because I have constantly seen huge furballs my last couple of days of flying.   This map is designed to create huge congested furballs, and its succeeding at its job.

Is the La7 and the Dora deadly planes in the hands of a skilled pilot? Yup they sure are.

The funny thing, is that most of the La7 pilots in the arena I see, totally stink. They try to fly it like a Spitfire, and turnfight in it. And of course they try to spray long distance shots with the mediocre B-20 shells and can't hit crap (did I mention the short clip?) IMO most of them are Easy meat.

And the British planes aren't competitive Karnak? Come on.... alot of people must disagree with you or the Spit IX would not be one of the two most popular planes in the arena.

Sorry guys, but I just have to totally disagree. I think the MA is the most diverse it has been since the open beta started.

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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2001, 08:27:00 AM »
Tempest

when you absolutely have to kill everything and not get shot down nothing else in AH comes close...
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Ive been chased down fair/square by a Typhoon in my Tempest....

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« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2001, 08:40:00 AM »
Everything that exceeds the speed of my Henschel 126, should be perked.

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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2001, 08:51:00 AM »
Do what I do... fly the lesser ability planes and kick some booty.

I'm 26/3 in the La5
10/2 in 47D-25
10/2 in C205
37/15 in F6F-5
When the warping subsides I'll give the Zero a whirl and see what I can come up with.
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« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2001, 09:11:00 AM »
Good post Verm.
Karnak dont give up on the Mossie..Your making good progress bud. But you know it wont be a dog fighter right? So people passing up on trying to turnfight a zero is hardly indicative of what will happen to a Mossie.
The first guy that slowed down to dogfight you in your zero while every one else stayed at speed to keep thier birds nimble would have been in serios trouble. He would likely miss you and then be the focus of his enemies rath..

It sounds like none of the birds above you were hispano equiped. And few where 50 cal equiped. Both guns work far better against a bat turning zero then the mg151/20 and the soviet cannons. The allied guns let you open up a little befor the bat turn starts and maybe take the zero out of his game...
But if you have to worry about D9s, La7s and P51s it is a bad idea to slow down to fight a lone zero...
 
Sounds like you were up against some experianced sticks. They identified the real threat and avoided the bate.

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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2001, 09:12:00 AM »
Last week   poor Pollock ... and it's my fault, he tried to save me. No wonder their was always a Spit in my six, I wasn't dogfighting 2 Spits only as I thought  
 
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« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2001, 10:17:00 AM »
Karnak,
  I seemed to remember bumping into you last night once or twice.  I can't comment on how many La7's there were (I was in one much of the evening), but you should have seen the number of N1K's on your side of the line.  Wow, I counted 7 N1K in view at one point.  Most of them had a whole lot of alt too, I bumped into one at 20K while I was in a P-47.

I hate finding N1Ks higher than me, even at that alt.

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