Author Topic: Explain this to me please. (Read 1709 times)

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #45 on:** March 27, 2004, 02:27:58 AM »

The article ignores the fact that most americans suppoerted the vietnam war until 1968 and Tet and Que Sanh.. Both were absolute military disasters for the Communists but they turned US public opinion against the war - even though we were winning... So yes the military was let down on the home front.

It's intresting how the article mentions Haiti as some nefarious US scheme, lets not forget we're there with a "multinational coalition" (multinational seems to mean multinational only if including france) so it's all ok, right? I guess that "multinational" isnt engough to guard against some good ole USA bashing....

Sixpence · « **Reply #46 on:** March 27, 2004, 03:08:17 AM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
What Kerry says he wants to do is clearly underlined and in bold of all economics books of **WHAT NOT TO DO** in a recession. His plan will lower the GDP by roughly 1 trillion dollars. And this is not a good thing in a recession. It will most likely lead to incredible amounts of Unemployment, not to mention a recession that would be 2x worse then the one Clinton gave us.

Or even worse, the one Reagan gave us, yikes.

_Schadenfreude_ · « **Reply #47 on:** March 27, 2004, 05:26:06 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
The article ignores the fact that most americans suppoerted the vietnam war until 1968 and Tet and Que Sanh.. Both were absolute military disasters for the Communists but they turned US public opinion against the war - even though we were winning... So yes the military was let down on the home front.

It's intresting how the article mentions Haiti as some nefarious US scheme, lets not forget we're there with a "multinational coalition" (multinational seems to mean multinational only if including france) so it's all ok, right? I guess that "multinational" isnt engough to guard against some good ole USA bashing....

well when reading it one should remember that it comes from a leftist (for the Uk and ultra leftist for the USA) newspaper - they will report in line with their editorial policy.

It was however written by an American, on the faculty of an American University, I don't think it bashes USA in any specific way, merely gives one academic's viewpoint on events past and current.

I don't personally agree with all the points he makes, however one should try to listen to other points of view before one can have an opinion on things - I read the Drudge report on a daily basis - I don't agree with everything on it but it gives a wider view of events.

Eagler · « **Reply #48 on:** March 27, 2004, 06:26:33 AM »

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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
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It was however written by an American, on the faculty of an American University, ....

this is the hotbed for the left, great for brainwashing our youth, usually takes them 5 to 10 years after college to see the light - you know as soon as they see the money they earned from the job they gained for the money that was spent to send them to college is going into the pockets of those who turn around and give it to many who don't even try ....

Frogm4n · « **Reply #49 on:** March 27, 2004, 01:50:08 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
yeah, but liberals and bums need his money in order to support even more liberals and bums.

Actually the middle states with all the white trash recieve more in federal moneys then any liberal state.

NUKE · « **Reply #50 on:** March 27, 2004, 01:55:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Frogm4n
Actually the middle states with all the white trash recieve more in federal moneys then any liberal state.

what is "white trash" ?? that sounds racist to me.

And a bum is a bum, regardless of state and the liberals love spending hard working people's money on them.

Frogm4n · « **Reply #51 on:** March 27, 2004, 02:02:41 PM »

Drive through the poor parts of nebraska and other middle states. They collect more welfare in those states then the 'blue' states.

NUKE · « **Reply #52 on:** March 27, 2004, 02:06:04 PM »

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Originally posted by Frogm4n
Drive through the poor parts of nebraska and other middle states. They collect more welfare in those states then the 'blue' states.

by driving through you can determine this?

Hajo · « **Reply #53 on:** March 27, 2004, 02:15:35 PM »

Yes....he is going to drop Corporate Taxes in the US. But, one very important part that was missed is.....he's going to close the Loophole in Tax law that makes it cheaper to manufacture overseas. He's going to ask that the same tax on Manufacturing be equal to the tax on manufacturing in the US. He's going to tax at the same rate Manufacturing etc whether it is foreign produced or US produced. He's going to do this slowly so as not to hit the Corps hard at one fell swoop. This he hope will bring jobs back to the US. Then he proposes the 5% income tax reduction on Manufacturing in the US so it will encourage US Corps to produce in the US and not abroad. Thus...creating jobs.

Read the entire statement. Not the part you just wish to read or hear

Curval · « **Reply #54 on:** March 27, 2004, 02:23:57 PM »

Hajo...companies do not move manufacturing out of the US because of high taxes...they do so because of the high cost of labour.

Kerry has sucked you into his web of bulls***.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #55 on:** March 27, 2004, 03:28:53 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184

Woah Gunslinger.
First off, it was a silver star. Second, he didn't come under fire.

February 28, 1969:
When Kerry's Patrol Craft Fast 94 received a B-40 rocket shot from shore, he hot dogged his craft beaching it in the center of the enemy position. To his surprise, an enemy soldier sprang up from a hole not ten feet from Patrol Craft 94 and fled.

The boat's machine gunner hit and wounded the fleeing Viet Cong as he darted behind a hootch. The twin .50s gunner fired at the Viet Cong. He said he "laid 50 rounds" into the hootch before Kerry leaped from the boat and dashed in to administer a "coup de grace" to the wounded Viet Cong. Kerry returned with the B-40 rocket and launcher.

Kerry was given a Silver Star for his actions.

got that from here
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com/page2.html

a good movie about Kerry's protesting endevours
http://www.stopjohn.com/pages/movies/hanoi-john.htm

Coolridr · « **Reply #56 on:** March 27, 2004, 06:26:46 PM »

still ugly

gofaster · « **Reply #57 on:** March 29, 2004, 09:21:05 AM »

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Originally posted by Curval
Hajo...companies do not move manufacturing out of the US because of high taxes...they do so because of the high cost of labour.

Define the cost of labor for your example. Cost of labor = pure wages, or Cost of Labor = wages plus taxes? Or is there another definition at play here?

I would think equal taxation on income whether generated at home or abroad would be levelling the playing field a bit.

Also, another motivation for moving offshore is to avoid legal liabilities under US law, and the US is a very litigious society. Funny how Kerry isn't suggesting legal reform to go along with his tax ideas. Why? Because many politicians are attorneys.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #58 on:** March 29, 2004, 09:29:36 AM »

Gunslinger, i'm fully aware of it.

However, no one shot at kerry as he got out of the boat. I'd be surprised if the Vietnamese guy so much as coughed after getting hit with .50's.

MJHerman · « **Reply #59 on:** March 29, 2004, 10:07:57 AM »

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Originally posted by gofaster
I thought this part was interesting:

Isn't this double-taxation? Company gets taxed in India on the income, then gets taxed again in the US on that same income. I guess that's one way to discourage moving jobs overseas - you'd end up getting taxed twice and couldn't dodge the IRS.

If there is a tax treaty between the US and India there is no double taxation. Indian taxes which are paid would be credited against taxes payable in the US.