Author Topic: Gotta Love the Drug War (Read 2102 times)

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #75 on:** March 30, 2004, 03:06:05 PM »

You think I want alcohol to be illegal? I don't smoke anymore, and I'm still pissed that salamanders out there are trying to force bars to not allow smoking.
-SW

gofaster · « **Reply #76 on:** March 30, 2004, 03:06:15 PM »

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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Well if we are going to ban alcohol and marijuana, we should look at real health risks. I'm sure bacon and hamburgers and velveeta claim more lives than alcohol. Let's ban those too.

Believe it or not, there are groups out there considering doing just that.

gofaster · « **Reply #77 on:** March 30, 2004, 03:07:43 PM »

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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
I know Funked, but prohibition didn't work - so saying "I'd be happy with prohibition because then my father wouldn't have been an alcoholic." Is like saying, "I'd be happy without motorvehicles because then my siezure prone uncle wouldn't have crashed and died."
-SW

He didn't seek it out. It was presented at professional functions. Ever been to a dry political party? The addiction sprung from that. He was dry through high school and military (believe it or not). He didn't start smoking until law school as a way to stay awake for studying. He didn't start drinking until he became a lawyer.

Frogm4n · « **Reply #78 on:** March 30, 2004, 03:12:50 PM »

Listen gofaster, you shouldnt want to take away other peoples rights just because your father was a lush and couldnt help himself around alcohol. I am around alcohol almost 24/7(college) and i rarely if ever drink more then a few beers. Its called self control. I am sorry your father was not man enough to have any, but shut up about trying to restrict other peoples right to drink.

Eagler · « **Reply #79 on:** March 30, 2004, 03:14:09 PM »

another post which shows frogboys true level of maturity and understanding - wtg creep

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #80 on:** March 30, 2004, 03:15:16 PM »

So - he gave into peer pressure? Still, as Funked said, the least common denominator should not dictate what is and is not legal. If that were true, may as well just put us all in our own individual 2ft by 2ft by 8ft cell and feed us intravaneously because, afterall, we are a hazard to ourselves.
-SW

mora · « **Reply #81 on:** March 30, 2004, 03:29:57 PM »

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Originally posted by gofaster
He didn't seek it out. It was presented at professional functions. Ever been to a dry political party? The addiction sprung from that. He was dry through high school and military (believe it or not). He didn't start smoking until law school as a way to stay awake for studying. He didn't start drinking until he became a lawyer.

I believe it's better to start drinking younger than at an older age. I've seen many cases where people have started drinking at an older age and usually these people have the worst self control when it comes to drinking.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #82 on:** March 30, 2004, 03:34:13 PM »

Gofaster,
I know were you are coming from, my dad was an alky, and at one point a druggy.

The difference is, I know if alcohol were illegal, once he was addicted he would have found it and if alcohol was not available then it would have been drugs sooner. Unless you are talking fantasy land(lots of idealistic liberals especially pro gun control ones like this place) there is no way to ever get rid of booze or drugs, hell you can make booze in your back yard with a still. I do not blame the booze for his problem.

I blame him. My dad did not care enough about himself or me, or anyone else to turn his life around, and he died with a vodka bottle in his hand and I got to pick up the peaces.

He made his choices, and it was not the booze that killed him, it was the apathy for life and his lack of care for himself.

You are trying to blame the booze for your father’s flaws and for his lack of will in getting them fixed.

I know the truth, you can't blame the booze.

gofaster · « **Reply #83 on:** March 30, 2004, 03:38:30 PM »

Don't expect me to stand up for your right to drink beer if I myself do not drink beer.

Sandman · « **Reply #84 on:** March 30, 2004, 03:39:20 PM »

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Originally posted by gofaster
Don't expect me to stand up for your right to drink beer if I myself do not drink beer.

Well... I'll stand up for your right to speak, even if I do not agree with what you say.

gofaster · « **Reply #85 on:** March 30, 2004, 03:41:55 PM »

I don't know you. Therefore, why should I trust your judgment? Why should I trust that you won't get behind the wheel of a car after a hard night's drinking and kill somebody out of your lack of control?

Prohibition on alcohol wouldn't bother me a bit.

Sandman · « **Reply #86 on:** March 30, 2004, 03:46:20 PM »

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Originally posted by gofaster
Therefore, why should I trust your judgment? Why should I trust that you won't get behind the wheel of a car after a hard night's drinking and kill somebody out of your lack of control?

Freedom isn't free.

If I get behind the wheel after drinking and kill someone, you have my permission to put a bullet to my brain.

2stony · « **Reply #87 on:** March 30, 2004, 03:46:35 PM »

There was a good one in Tacoma, Washington a few years back. The police bust down the door of a small time pot dealer just before dawn. His parent were living in the house with him. He wakes up when he hears the door go down and grabs his gun thinking it might be an intruder. He sees someone in the house in the dark and opens up on them not knowing it was the police. He kills the cop and is hit several times by the other police. He has been to trial twice for murder and it's been a hung jury twice that I know of. The police were so well informed and did their job so well that they didn't know that the guy's brother, who was a country sheriff, didn't live in the house anymore. He had moved out a few months prior to the incident. They thought he still lived in the house. Gotta love it when the police do their homework.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #88 on:** March 30, 2004, 03:48:17 PM »

You have no right to dictate to anyone else what they do.

You can take you statement gofaster and remove any reference about booze and it still aplies.

Some people. Hell MOST people handle their booze fine, why do you feel the need to punish the law abiding because you dad could not handle his booze? Was it the Bar assotiation and the acholahols fault that you dad was the man he was/is?

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #89 on:** March 30, 2004, 03:51:10 PM »

2stony
Thr brother who was a county sheriff was the grower/dealer?