AH Classic, AH II, and AH Premium?

[mars01]

Most find it in hords, they always have. Remember how moving fields closer was supposed to solve this?

Mini moving the field close was not an attempt to stop the hordes.  It was an attemp to reduce the flight time to the fight and mitigate the fuel re-supply/pork imbalance.  Two things which it did very well.

It also has helped defend against the hord by allowing the defense to come from a base in the same sector, thus getting to the horded field before its too late.

I agree the timidity of the players in the MA is a result of those who fly cautiously and always have to have an advantage as well as those who fly for no other reason but to kill strat.

Can the first kind be found in a furball yes, but to say the furballs are as timid as chasing strat or cherry pickers is incorrect.

Of course, people also survive by hanging out high above fights and only engaging with an advantage. They also survive by not playing into another plane's advantages. They also survive by hanging out in their own ack. But... that's not really what we're talking about here now is it? Cause that would kick out a few of the main *****ers in this thread.

Dude you either gotta lay off the boose or lay on the boose I'm not quite sure yet. lol:D

[Halo]

Would hate to see approval of attempts to control gameplay by raising prices.  Rather insulting to lots of good players who find challenge enough in the present $15 a month.

Raise the price high enough and there wouldn't be any need for this bulletin board -- all four players could negotiate in person.

Even then, perfect conformance to rules explicit or implied would be unlikely.  Chances are there still would be one furballer, one vulcher, one kamikaze, and one field marshal.

[beet1e]

Originally posted by Toad
No more commentary on the Tour 44 stats? Did your attempt to skew them turn out the way you wished?

Observation made public, chain yanked - no skewing required!

[Toad]

Looks more like you wanking than yanking. But that's nothing new.

[Toad]

OK, Mini, so you're going with:

"The simple truth is that 90% of the people playing AH are just looking for some kind of advantage."

as the reason for steamroller tactics.

OK. Now tell me....... why wasn't this tactic/gameplay prevalent in AH from the very beginning? It's a relatively "new" thing when you look at the overall age of the game.

As for the rest, Mars addressed most of it so there's no need for me to chime in.

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by mars01
Well Zazen,

I fly the spit lot, mostly because it's a good warm up and mostly because I look for the biggest red dar bar and head strait for it.  Other times im upping in the face of the horde so there is really little choice in the matter.

I also fly the LA7 alot when I get tired of the runners as well as the F4Us and 190s.  If you do the due dilligence you'll notice I fly alot of different planes.

I don't mind people extending and mixing it up.  It's the out and out runners not the arms lengthers.  I have killed many a spit in an LA7 and F4U not only staying at arms length but also turning with them.

I have also killed your runners, they are the most boring kill going.  Yeah its kinda neat the first two or three times...  Meet a coalt or higher boge in a F4U or 190, make a pass or two, get on his six, nme dives for deck and runs, I chase and close and kill him.  After the 3rd or fourth time I'm bored to tears.

I never said it was especially difficult, of course it's easy. If runners bother you that much, fly a faster plane than the Spit5.

[beet1e]

Originally posted by Mr. Toad
Well Beet, some folks find it exciting to drive London Taxis at extremely safe speeds on well maintained roads.

Then others see that Taxi as something to drive extremely fast in perilous conditions.

That could have been summed up in three words: Dying is cool! I can just imagine the squad attire - replete with turban and explosives belt!

I was shocked by your "wanking" remark! Very untoadlike.

Hehe, it's funny how the TAS squad should be the very people to champion the freedom of choice enjoyed by the AH populace in terms of planes, playing styles etc. with the "Fly what you like, like what you fly" mantra. And yet, here we have a thread written by a TASer, lamenting the state of gameplay in the MA, and with several other TAS guys throwing their hats into the ring and whining about the way so many people spend their $14.95 while refusing to conform to the TAS rules of the air.  Face it guys - the steamrollvulchers are never going to fly *your* way! I wish I could offer some crumb of comfort. It pains me to see you all sharing the same soggy handkerchief.

But wait. Maybe I can. Do a search for threads containing "generalissimo". I'm sure you'll find within those threads a wealth of advice on how to deal with the deplorable state of affairs whereby 90% of people in the arena just won't fly your way, this being the advice meted out to me when I expressed concern at the state of AH gameplay many moons ago.

What goes around comes around, eh? :lol

pwn3d!

[mars01]

I never said it was especially difficult, of course it's easy. If runners bother you that much, fly a faster plane than the Spit5.

Its not the spitV that's the problem, it's the fly cautiously, always have to have an advantage, once the advantage is blown run for their life tactics that make this game very boring.  

This is a fighter combat game, its ok to die, its ok to not fly so safe and take a few chances to make it fun.  

Who knows if the runners fought it out they might learn something about ACM.

[68DevilM]

here here thats what i said in my ground pounders post

any ways had a good fight last night even though yes 75% of my play time was bullXXXX was trying to protect a base from one lone spit and got shot down 5 time before i barely left the deck finnaly the spit rtb to collect his kills so i chased him in a la7 and that spit (i think his name was skynomb) or something like that? duke and dodged me for over a half and hour until he finnaly made it back to his home base and the ack shot me down and added another kill to skynombs score, so i take my hat off to you skynomb, but watch your back im still gunning for you.

[mars01]

duke and dodged me for over a half and hour until he finnaly made it back to his home base and the ack shot me down and added another kill to skynombs score, so i take my hat off to you skynomb, but watch your back im still gunning for you.

Unbelieveable - So your hats off to a guy that could only vulch you and didn't have the balls to fight you.  I only hope he was out of gas or bullets otherwise that is just plain poor and exactly the kind of player we are discussing.

[mars01]

Hehe, it's funny how the TAS squad should be the very people to champion the freedom of choice enjoyed by the AH populace in terms of planes, playing styles etc. with the "Fly what you like, like what you fly" mantra. And yet, here we have a thread written by a TASer, lamenting the state of gameplay in the MA, and with several other TAS guys throwing their hats into the ring and whining about the way so many people spend their $14.95 while refusing to conform to the TAS rules of the air. Face it guys - the steamrollvulchers are never going to fly *your* way! I wish I could offer some crumb of comfort. It pains me to see you all sharing the same soggy handkerchief.

Beetle you would want people to choose not to fight, then you could get all the undefended bases your little heart desires.

Yes Zip mentioned he has tired of the Steamrollers, but if you notice the majority of his statement deals with his tiring of the timid types like yourself, who always need and advantage and don’t like interlopers breaking up their attack of completely undefended bases.  The ones that don't want to fight and would rather run.  It makes all the sense in the world that you defend this type of game play.  This is how you play.

When you speak of choice, the choices we have discussed in the past, they were between being able to furball vs being able to blow up tool sheds.  No we do not want to restrict the choice of the tool shedders like some maps have removed the choice to furball.

Once again your vain, hollow attempt to sleight the TAS is riddled with holes and only shows your true ignorance.

And the only thing that is and keeps coming around is the smell of your BS:D

[beet1e]

Mars01,

I think you ought to substantiate your BS with a few facts. You're very fond of running a commentary on MY choice of how I spend $14.95 each month. And yet we've only ever encountered eachother... once. So unless you can post some films depicting my timidity, I would get off that hobbyhorse if I were you. You've already had to eat crow with a fork and spoon once this week.

Mars01 enjoying his crow lunch  



Toodle-Pip!  

[mars01]

Boy oh Boy Beet,

You are the one that has said countless times that you prefer sneaking bases and you even posted how you like to take undefended bases and dont like interlopers interupting you.

So once again you take something said about one thing in a totally different context and try to make it fit in another.  A true sign of a total Bull ***** artist.

Keep painting with your t u r d brush bud, we all know the truth about you.

Oh and by the way it's not eating crow it's being man enough to admit when I am wrong, two things you would know  nothing about.

So you didn't dive in at 20k you dove in at 8k while I was vulnerable in climb out from takeoff.  Phew you are amazing dude, I can't believe the RAF hasn't got a hold of your skills yet lolh:rofl

[Spitter]

Originally posted by VWE
You want some good fights? The areana your looking for already exists... its called the CT. Try it you may like it, I'm starting to fly much more of my online time in there.

Even tho I'm new, I'm going to have to second this!  I finally tried out the CT a few nights ago, and it was nice!  Only about 150 total, I actually got escorts when I upped a bomber, the folks were friendly, and the biggest complaint was that, at the time, knights were heavily outnumbered.  
Oh, and as for the main topic, I don't think I'd pay more to get shot down by all you guys...I do that just fine in the MA now.
My strategy:  Fly as unpredictably as possible through the middle of a furball and distract the other guys long enough for my squadmates to get a kill.  Just call me DroneBoy!  

Cheers,
Spitter

[Pongo]

The Spitfire Theater neads some changes.