Does this look like rose pedals to you?

[10Bears]

So now we know from Paul O’Neal and Richard Clarke and numerous others, that this war was decided on in the first days of the Bush presidency. Forget all that rhetoric Gov. Bush used on the campaign trail.. a humble foreign policy.. whoa talk about a flip-flop.. I don’t think there’s an example in American history of a greater flip-flop.. Man that was the classic bait and switch.

We get to wake up to headlines like this Bodies of Foreigners Dragged Through Streets of Fallujah; Bomb Kills Five U.S. Troops

These kind of Mogadishu type slaughters are happening with more frequency. The same kind of things that had you conservatives OUTRAGED at President Clinton and his then defense sec. Colin Powell.

Oh.. and how bout some lovely imagery from the article..

ssociated Press Television News pictures showed one man beating a charred corpse with a metal pole. Others tied a yellow rope to a body, hooked it to a car and dragged it down the main street of town. Two blackened and mangled corpses were hung from a green iron bridge across the Euphrates.

"The people of Fallujah hanged some of the bodies on the old bridge like slaughtered sheep," resident Abdul Aziz Mohammed said. Some of the corpses were dismembered, he said.

Beneath the bodies, a man held a printed sign with a skull and crossbones and the phrase "Fallujah is the cemetery for Americans."

sheesh... freakin’ maddness..

Lets not vote for John Kerry in Nov. He’s a flip-flopper don’t you know.. and he looks French.. Wouldn’t you rather have a beer with good ole’ country Texas boy Dubya or that icky french lookin’ dude?.

Bush/Chaney04 - Because it’s not our fault.

[lazs2]

While I am touched by your concern for American soldiers....

I am wondering... are you saying that the thing to do when you get casulties it to run away like Klinton?   Let the people there fend for themselves?   How do you suposse that kerry would make it all better?

lazs

[Frogm4n]

Originally posted by lazs2
While I am touched by your concern for American soldiers....

I am wondering... are you saying that the thing to do when you get casulties it to run away like Klinton?   Let the people there fend for themselves?   How do you suposse that kerry would make it all better?

lazs

Its too late to just pull out now, but at least kerry would try to get our Nato allies to help us out with the costs and a faster exit.
Which is part of his platform.

[10Bears]

I am concerned by your lack of concern for American military personal. I also take umbrage at your lack of patriotism by misspelling the last name of a former president of the United States.

How do I suppose John Kerry would make it all better? Well for starters he might use his brain.. Apologize to former allies like Canada and Mexico for lying to them. He might put together a real group of industrial nations to help out in equal parts. He might get together with that guy the Ayatollah Sistini and hammer out some sort of Democracy with a sprinkle of Islamic law.  

I would suppose that a president John Kerry would NOT under any circumstances continue the current policies.

[lazs2]

well... I take offense at your blatant use of dead American soldiers to push your emotional liberal agenda so I guess we are even except... I am an American.

I don't know where you are from but you seem to have access to what kerry thinks... I have seen nothing from him that is like what you say he will do.  fortunately.... you don't get to vote.

lazs

[lasersailor184]

Err, people in Hawaii get to vote...




Anyway, Democracy and Islamic law are two contradictory terms.  You can't have both.  Nor can you have "Sprinklings" of each.

You either have Islamic Law ALA kill anyone you want because Allah says to.

or you can have democracy where everyone is equal.  Every woman, man, child, person.

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
or you can have democracy where everyone is equal.  Every woman, man, child, person.

Don't tell that to the ancient Greeks or Romans.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[Arlo]

Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Don't tell that to the ancient Greeks or Romans.

-- Todd/Leviathn

I've yet to meet one but it's not on my "things to do" list anyhow.

[Red Tail 444]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
or you can have democracy where everyone is equal.  Every woman, man, child, person.

...But not those G** Da**** Liberals!  THEY don't get to vote!

[SunTracker]

The U.S. is the only remaining super power.  After the worst terrorist attack in history, its the job of the United States to smash any country that appears to be a threat or that does not cooperate in measures relating to World safety.

Sure, theres alot of insane Iraqis who want to kill Americans (fanatical Sunnis).  But American soldiers are killing alot of these Iraqis, and thereby evolving Iraqi culture to pro-American.

In 50 years there may not be any dictatorships left in the World.  Hopefully every country will either be a Republic or Democracy.  Until then, World progress will only slowly crawl forward.

[lazs2]

10 bears is Hawiian?  Thought he was a british citizen?   Why the british flag then?  in any case.... I have seen nothing from kerry on how he would handle the occupation.   I have no faith in him doing a better job and am satisfied with the way Bush is handling it.

I do find using the deaths of U.S. soldiers to push a liberal agenda distasteful... much as I have allways found the "do it for the children" liberal mantra distasteful.

lazs

[Arlo]

Hehehe ... that's the Hawaiian state flag.

[slimm50]

[lazs2]

never been to Hawaii... just figured it must  be a flag from some little leftover british colony or another...  Oh wait...

why don't they get a manly state flag fer chrissakes..

lazs

[Frogm4n]

Originally posted by lazs2
10 bears is Hawiian?  Thought he was a british citizen?   Why the british flag then?  in any case.... I have seen nothing from kerry on how he would handle the occupation.   I have no faith in him doing a better job and am satisfied with the way Bush is handling it.

I do find using the deaths of U.S. soldiers to push a liberal agenda distasteful... much as I have allways found the "do it for the children" liberal mantra distasteful.

lazs

Once again laz shows us that he stoped going to school at age 7. I am assuming that it was not manly enough for him.