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Offline LAWCobra

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« Reply #60 on: March 31, 2004, 12:25:33 PM »
Why have we developed this attitiude of your against us or for us?
Well its called solidarity.
Without we had veit nam!
We finaly pulled our heads out of our arses as a country and found out that if we stick together we win .
Its that simple

A close look at our history will prove this.
And when the majority of the country is divided we lose (veit nam).

We as a country have resolve and the GUTTS
to take on these worthless bastardos and kill em all.

Lord knows noone else has sept for Israel.

We where ATTACKED!!! you dont do that to this country and just go about your merry way.

We are a big country with a even bigger ego and we back up what we say.

So dont come up to the porch and kick the big dog and think you aint gonna get bite!

You know the Japanese said when attacking pearl harbour that they fear the have awaken a sleeping giant.

Well the terrorist have woke us up once again and we are ANGRY.

So if you don't agree with the way we are taking out the garbage then just get the hell out of the way.
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« Reply #61 on: March 31, 2004, 12:32:20 PM »
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All of that does not center on the war. Can you explain how you came to that conclusion because i certainly dont see it.


You really don't see it?

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1. Bush selling the war on false grounds.

2. The American citizens swallowing his lies (about why we need to go to war) without hesitation.

3. The US-stance (on the WAR) "You're either with us or against us", no room for any middle ground...

4. That 70% of the US-Citizens beliving the Iraq war was about 9/11
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« Reply #62 on: March 31, 2004, 12:34:11 PM »
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I didn't say the US government was blameless. I said the majority of the genocide took place before 1776. By far and away the vast majority, probably on the order of 80 to 90%.

That doesn't excuse US policy, it just puts it in perspective.


A lot of that genocide was also just simple disease immunities.  Smallpox killed an outrageous number of native americans.  As did the Spanish. :D
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« Reply #63 on: March 31, 2004, 12:45:26 PM »
As has been pointed out, smallpox was used as a weapon against the Native Americans long before there was a United States government.

Check out the Brit General, Amherst for a prime example. Hernando Desoto also stands accused of the same tactic but at least in his case he has a very few defenders claiming it was "unintentional".


Oh, and that doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of the Native American population in North America, South America and the Carribean died directly or indirectly (unintentional infection with disease) as a result of "European Discovery" prior to 1776.
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« Reply #64 on: March 31, 2004, 02:13:32 PM »
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"Indians" land is missleading. There were many different tribes......none had a government or declared borders or a declared nation.  


Native Amerian nations did in fact have highly developed governmental structure. Just because it was not doctrined from European parlimentary procedure does not invalidate its existence.

Wars took place over water rights, hunting grounds, migration and trade routes and laws, etc. Oral history and art is how these laws were passed on.

You might want to do a bit more reading, if all the books on indigenous culture havent been burned in your neighborhood. Any book by Chief Wilma Mankiller should provide some insight, or even Linda Hogan, Chief Arvol Lookinghorse, and others.
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« Reply #65 on: March 31, 2004, 03:38:17 PM »
". It was about 9/11 and it still is. As I said... the value of a god example can't be overstated. I would even go so far as to say more than one terrorist or terrorist sympathizer has met his maker since 9/11... more will follow no doubt. In any case... the sadman ain't gonna help anyone. "


How is invading Iraq about 9/11? There hasn't been a single document found yet linking Sadam to Al Qaeda. Even bush admited this himself in one of his speaches.

Before the war Bush saying there was a link between Sadam and supporting Al Qaeda, along with Nuclear Materials from Nigera and 100s tons of chemicals weapons in stockpiles with rockets ready to launch in 45 mins.  All just part of the lies.

Linking the war on terror to Iraq is a mistake and misleading just like the WMD's. They should of stayed concentrating on Afghanistan as that is directly connected to 9/11. Although we have some sort of order and presence in a few of the main cities. Most of the land has reverted back to the warloards and Taliban.

If we are going after countries that supported terroists and especially the Taliban then why wasn't the area of Pakistan boardering Afghanistan  invaded at the same time?

When the US and it's allies kicked the Taliban out of Afghanistan everyone was behind it 100% for job very well done. Which it was.

Unfortunetly with Bush's invasion of Iraq all that support has now swung the other way. And those leaders from other countries that have supported Bush against majority of public opinion (Blair especially) are left high and dry. And certinly won't be around next election.



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« Reply #66 on: March 31, 2004, 04:15:14 PM »
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Unfortunetly with Bush's invasion of Iraq all that support has now swung the other way. And those leaders from other countries that have supported Bush against majority of public opinion (Blair especially) are left high and dry. And certinly won't be around next election.



...-Gixer


WOW you can tell the future !
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« Reply #67 on: March 31, 2004, 04:26:32 PM »
1. Yes we were sold a bill of goods by the administration on WMD and "imminent threat".

2. Overall we have had good results from this war.

3. Now what?
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« Reply #68 on: March 31, 2004, 04:28:41 PM »
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WOW you can tell the future !



Look at the Polls in UK and how unpopular Blair is right now. You go against majority of public opinion for so long it's obvious what the future outcome is going to be.



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« Reply #69 on: March 31, 2004, 04:35:16 PM »
"2. Overall we have had good results from this war. "


Still a bit early to start claiming good results, don't you think?



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« Reply #70 on: March 31, 2004, 04:42:03 PM »
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"2. Overall we have had good results from this war. "


Still a bit early to start claiming good results, don't you think?



...-Gixer


Maybe, but I like to see the glass as half full of oil instead of half empty.
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« Reply #71 on: March 31, 2004, 05:01:07 PM »
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Maybe, but I like to see the glass as half full of oil instead of half empty.



Fair enough.


Nightmares btw.
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« Reply #72 on: April 01, 2004, 08:49:15 AM »
well.... think of it from a terrorists view point of view or... from the viewpoint of a country that welcomes and trains terrorists...

If the U.S. is crazy enough to attack and depose a benevolent and well loved leader of a kind and loving regime like the sadmans iraq who never would go so far as to even talk to a terrorist.... think what they will do if they found a real terrorist or country that supported them.

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