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Offline Eagler

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« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2004, 01:34:09 PM »
I think there is a reason for the term "strategic" in "strategic reserves" and it ain't to lower gas prices ...

shoot the malibu and drill our own oil if you want that, the only thing that will lower prices is competiton - or invading Iraq for its oil :rolleyes:
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« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2004, 01:56:51 PM »
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Frog,

Clinton did that in the mid 90's.   He released 30 million gallons from the strategic reserves in an effort to boost supply and lower prices.  Well, it must have worked.  Average prices dropped $0.01.  Yup, 1 cent.

Still think this is a good idea?

MiG



I do remember that.. Clinton released like 1 month worth of oil (something like that) that was just excess oil in the market and got pretty much zero cost benefit to the consumer..

I thought I read that Bush is placing oil INTO the strategic reserve thereby taking oil out of the market therby raising the pump price.???

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« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2004, 01:59:26 PM »
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I thought I read that Bush is placing oil INTO the strategic reserve thereby taking oil out of the market therby raising the pump price.???

dude


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« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2004, 02:18:27 PM »
Yea i guess it has more to do with the oil companys inflating prices and opec then anything.

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« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2004, 04:55:44 PM »
I remember prior to the iraqi invasion of kuwait gass at the local amaco was $.97 a gal.  

A day later it shot up to $1.45 a gal and it hasnt come down since then.

EDIT...kerry looks more like a walking noodle verses an ultra melon

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« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2004, 05:58:41 PM »
kerry has an answer to every ill in the world - maybe two answers - from totally different sides of the issue

gota love his answer to high oil prices - he's gonna "twist arms' and bring down the price - richie rich doesn't have a clue
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« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2004, 06:06:48 PM »
If I heard right today...OPEC agreed to cut its output by 4 percent.  They are driving em up not Bush. reserves wont mean diddly in the price either.

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« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2004, 06:29:04 PM »
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Did I really hear him griping about gas prices?


Kerry knows damn well that gas prices are higher because we haven't built a new oil refinery since 1976, and we have 1/2 the refineries we used to have. Plus liberal ultra melon run states like California put measures into place that ensures harder to get gas due to special blends.

More demand for gas than ever, 1/2 the refineries, special blends for many markets and people wonder why gas is going up in price? I love it. I also love "open the STRATEGIC oil reserves" that has to be the most stupid response I have heard.

Kerry is crying about gas prices because he thinks it will resonate with the idiot population that have no concept about why the gas is going up. Bush has nothing to do with gas prices but Kerry is trying to put that message out to the indiot masses.

Kerry probably had more to due with increasing gas prices via his years in the Sentate and their stupid evironmental protection regulations and laws than Bush ever has.

God forbid we actually drill for oil where we know it exists.....no, that would be bad.

The same dipchits that won't let Bush drill for oil in Alaska and Florida, and the Gulf are the same people crying about prices..

I love it.
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« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2004, 07:12:59 PM »
Can we drill the watermelon outta Alaska now?

***** the Caribou!

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« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2004, 07:43:47 PM »
Much
 Thats hard, the Caribou are pretty tall, and they can kick you off the step lader. They are hard to sneak up on and the greenies get all pissed if you drug them.


Sheep.... :aok

Or better yet a liberal! It is almost the same!:D

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« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2004, 11:05:55 PM »
Neither Kerry or Bush have an oil policy that will do anything.

Kerry wants to contribute to current price volatility issues with his "renewable energy" push, brought to you by the good people at ADM and you local non-partisan corn belt senator. Sure it replaces foreign oil (thanks to a $.50 [? $.48]/gallon) subsidy to make it competitive that comes out of our highway funds!

Bush wants to give more handouts to big oil and the rest is fluff (with the exception of reducing the number of speciality gasoline formulations required for Clean Air Act compliance). Drilling in ANWR is a non solution (about the same minor impact as the proposed minor fuel efficiency increases that were soundly defeated by the efforts of automaker lobby). Good idea if you want to pop some short term profits though. You can still get more, cheaper oil overseas.

OPEC pretty much sets the base price. OPEC members have resisted cheating in recent years, which has helped keep the prices high, but not so high that demand would be impacted. Not much incentive for non OPEC members to lower prices soon either.

The price volatility (large periodic spikes) we've seen for a few years now is due to the fact that we are a free market with an unregulated oil industry. In 1981, shortly after the price controls of the 1970s were lifted, it was realized (by the oil industry) that there was an over abundance of refining capacity and low refining margins. Without collusion, the industry did what made good business sense and reduced the number of refineries by 50 percent, but increased capacity at each to meet demand (and now current demand).

The refining industry now operates at an effecient 98 percent capacity during peak summer months. This means, that if a pipeline breaks, or there's a refinery fire like the recent BP fire in Texas, there's little room to bring more supply into the market or to shift supply (especially since many areas require its own "special" reformulated gasoline because loopholes in the environmental law allowed for multiple, local solutions to the same basic requirement as noted earlier).

Since gasoline is a commodity, you get the same type of pricing reactions on the spot market as you get anytime there are potential shortages of supply and customers are desperate to avoid having dry tanks. This gets passed along to the consumer. By coincidence, major oil companies/refiners tend to make record profits during these periods. No real incentive there to do all that much about the situation :)

So, there are some things that can be done to somewhat decrease volatility and add increased price stability. But, short of regulating the industry, there is little that can be done to eliminate the issue entirely. There just aren't going to be any new refineries built any time soon, or any overcapacity added at the existing ones much beyond what we have now. BTW, if you use diesel, just wait until 2006/2007 when the stringent diesel sulfur regs hit.

Charon
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« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2004, 11:27:57 PM »
No Charon, thats all too complicated.

Kerry will fix everything, like magic.

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« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2004, 11:44:43 PM »
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No Charon, thats all too complicated.

Kerry will fix everything, like magic.


I dissagree Grun, Kerry says: I will fight the war on terror "the right way" and I will "fight hard" for American jobs. His idea for an attorney general is "someone other than John Ashcroft"

It's not magic at all......he is very specific with his plans.

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« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2004, 08:18:36 AM »
kerry is a womanly democrat in the pocket of the libs.   He will rubber stamp every environmental whacko law that goes before him and the price of gas will rise under his adminestration if we are not man enough to put a stop to him and all the other democrats.

Do you think kerry will be for more drilling for oil in say Alaska?

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