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Offline Gyro/T69

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« Reply #60 on: April 10, 2004, 12:14:33 AM »
Good point, but is Iraq a major war? Is the war on Terror a major war?

Will the people of the country stand for the draft? Look what the draft did to us in the 60s, I think this would be a huge mistake for America.



At this point, I'd say no. But with only 10 standing divisions it may be. It's really not enough manpower, if you need to rotate units in and out of an area over an extended length of time. They’re also the problem that many of these units are deployed in other parts of the world. They also need to rotate home.

Having lived through the sixties, I was 18 in 1972. The problem I saw with the draft was the college deferments. It was too easy for a large segment of the population to buy their way out of it. If they plan on implementing the same thing, it will be the same old, same old.

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« Reply #61 on: April 10, 2004, 12:15:36 AM »
I'm sure the draft would be taken a bit more favorably, if all draftee's bolstered our fight against Al Queda in Afganistan. More attention should be put towards the hunt for OBL and Al Queda in general.  The volunteer army should be more focused in Iraq.  As it stands, if a draft were to start, everyone knows they would be headed to the desert, not the mountains.

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« Reply #62 on: April 10, 2004, 12:19:35 AM »
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 From what I read the coledge loophole is gone.

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« Reply #63 on: April 10, 2004, 12:35:23 AM »
Join the Air Force, the food is better and they're working towards one person per room (if they aren't there already).
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« Reply #64 on: April 10, 2004, 05:22:39 AM »
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Good point, but is Iraq a major war? Is the war on Terror a major war?



I'll bet the good men and women dodging RPG's in Iraq would tell you its a major war.  Same with our troops in Afganistan.

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« Reply #65 on: April 10, 2004, 08:22:45 AM »
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« Reply #66 on: April 10, 2004, 09:46:30 AM »
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« Reply #67 on: April 10, 2004, 12:49:06 PM »
"mind you I'm talking last ditch effort"

We may be talking on different wavelengths. I'm talking about specificly about the current events and how that relates to a new draft with an end result, probably, of being sent to Iraq.  Are you talking in generalisations; being invaded and defending this country?

 Regardless of that though I stil find things that you say, such as, " If they really have a problem fighting for their country (mind you I'm talking last ditch effort), let them move to Canada before we ask for their help. They obviously don't care for the US that much anyway."  disturbing.

 To imply that people do not care or love thier country because they have a different POV about what truly constitutes "serving" thier country is ludicrous. The attitude that we should "do and die and never ask why" is, IMO, very un American to the core.  You seem to presume that people should abandon thier rights to independent and to foresake thier morals in order to comply with the bidding of the government, n omatter what that may be.  

Sorry. But that is just so wrong.

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« Reply #68 on: April 10, 2004, 04:58:11 PM »
I think we are on different wavelengths.  I was talking in generalizations, not about right now.  I don't really see a draft happening anytime soon, unless a lot more terrorist strikes start hitting America.

I don't think I ever said that everyone should "abandon their rights to independence and forsake their morales to comply with the bidding of the government, no matter what that may be."  But I do think it's kinda selfish of people to want to live as an American and not give anything in return, if such a request is made.

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« Reply #69 on: April 10, 2004, 05:09:19 PM »
GTO, you are freaking out over nothing. Yes, they are replacing Selective Service Boardmembers and filling empty slots. I personally NEVER REGISTERED for the Draft. I had a better idea, I enlisted on my 17th birthday. Never gave them the chance!:D
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« Reply #70 on: April 10, 2004, 05:15:31 PM »
Well, if we have so many volunteers, why do we need the draft? OK, we have the draft, but I wonder if we would have it if it were written that the children of politicians, from the pres on down, must be drafted first.
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« Reply #71 on: April 10, 2004, 05:27:21 PM »
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Well, if we have so many volunteers, why do we need the draft? OK, we have the draft, but I wonder if we would have it if it were written that the children of politicians, from the pres on down, must be drafted first.


No, because the politicians made the draft.

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« Reply #72 on: April 10, 2004, 06:31:02 PM »
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Good point, but is Iraq a major war? Is the war on Terror a major war?

Will the people of the country stand for the draft? Look what the draft did to us in the 60s, I think this would be a huge mistake for America.


This is not a war on terror. Thats like saying this a war on Love... how can you combat terror, when its a feeling. Its really a war on Radical Islamic folks who believe we are satan. But we cant really say "hey this is a war on islam folks die you sacraligious fools!"

The act of terrorisim is something that people do. It just seems foolish. But sh|t.. i don't know didly, because we have folks dieing over this.

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« Reply #73 on: April 10, 2004, 08:14:30 PM »
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Saur,
 Well I am old and fat so, they wouldnt take me if I wanted to go.

 well old being thirty. MrLars alluded that they may take up to 40 plus year olds for hard to fill jobs but I never saw him post a link and I found nothing about that anywhere.


Sorry 'bout that, here's a link to that info...

November, 2003 – Selective Service 2004 “Performance Plan” summarizes how $28 million will be allocated in 2004 to reduce draft activation time from current 8 months to just 75 days. Nation-wide Readiness Exercises, testing the Draft Lottery and examination system, as well as gearing up the Medical Draft (3.4 million doctors and nurses, men and women age 20-44 are eligible). Ominously, the Alternative Service delivery system for Conscientious Objectors is readied for the first time in decades, with the SSS being funded to compile lists of available Alternative Service jobs for those who win non-military CO status. All systems will be pushed to reach 95% readiness during 2004.

http://www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html

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« Reply #74 on: April 10, 2004, 08:17:07 PM »
RPM, you can enlist on your 17th birthday?  What for?