Author Topic: The battle of the memo's pre-9/11  (Read 686 times)

Offline JBA

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« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2004, 01:06:33 PM »
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Do any of you know the event that "legally prevented " the FBI from sharing information......

The event was "travel Gate"

Thanks Hillary.



this came out in the 9/11 commission hearings yesterday. Shocked the hell out of (sp?) Ben-ivista. He asked the question about why the FBI was unable to communicate with the other agencies. Well he got the answer and changed the subject real fast.
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« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2004, 01:07:22 PM »
That must mean it was Clinton's military that kicked bellybutton in Afghanistan and Iraq... WTG Bill.

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« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2004, 01:13:59 PM »
FACT: Upon taking office, the 2002 Bush budget proposed to slash more than half a billion dollars out of funding for counterterrorism at the Justice Department. In preparing the 2003 budget, the New York Times reported that the Bush White House "did not endorse F.B.I. requests for $58 million for 149 new counterterrorism field agents, 200 intelligence analysts and 54 additional translators" and "proposed a $65 million cut for the program that gives state and local counterterrorism grants." Newsweek noted the Administration "vetoed a request to divert $800 million from missile defense into counterterrorism." [Sources: 2001 vs. 2002 Budget Analysis; NY Times, 2/28/02; Newsweek, 5/27/02]


yes yes.. All these actions support bush's claims of being after those terrorist..  A missle defence program will stop them!!

Clinton must have REALLY been thowing money at counterterrorism for Bush to desire to slash that amount by more than half. Damn Clinton! Even when he gives TOO much, its not right..

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« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2004, 01:26:18 PM »
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That must mean it was Clinton's military that kicked bellybutton in Afghanistan and Iraq... WTG Bill.



That may be so. But I don't consider the military as part of the Government. I know they are, but they are far more efficient and organized to be government employees. Furthermore I don't give Bush credit for the military success. I give him credit for using them when Bill sat on his hands after 37 attacks against US citizens over 8 years.
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« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2004, 01:33:16 PM »
No he didn't

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« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2004, 01:36:20 PM »
are you considering the cruse missiles, on the eve of Monica and the impeachment a response?
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« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2004, 02:57:49 PM »
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Sorry guys, you can't dance your way out of this one. The President has to take full responsibility for the fate of this nation, for good or bad.

President Bush has not accepted full responsibilty for his failure to prevent 9/11.

Granted, it is extremely difficult to think of every possibility, and hindsight is always 20/20....but he did ask for the job. When's he going to assume the responsibility for his failure?

LOL, President Clinton got impeached for lying about a blowjob. President Bush has gotten away cleanly with failing to prevent a horrific attack that cost the lives of thousands of people, and ruined the lives of thousands more.

Don't get me wrong, I still think Clinton is a dirtbag, but man, a little perspective on what he did compared to what Bush didn't do is simply amazing.


So, banana. Lets do a philosophical question and please answer it to the best of your ability.

If I am a bus driver, and run a bus hard on my shift.. damn near breaking it, leaving it with a 1/2 quart of oil in the engine, then you are the next driver for your shift, and it breaks down...is it your fault or mine?

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« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2004, 03:05:13 PM »
Sensenbrenner Urges Commissioner Gorelick to Resign from the 9/11 Commission Because of Her Conflict of Interest

4/14/2004 12:07:00 PM


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To: National Desk

Contact: Jeff Lungren or Terry Shawn of the House Committee on the Judiciary, 202-225-2492, http://www.house.gov/judiciary

WASHINGTON, April 14 /U.S. Newswire/ -- House Judiciary Committee Chairman F. James Sensenbrenner, Jr. (R-Wis.) released the following statement:

"Yesterday, a 1995 memo written by 9/11 Commission Member Jamie Gorelick, in her former role as the second in command at the Justice Department, revealed her actions in establishing the heightened 'wall' prohibiting the sharing of intelligence information and criminal information. Scrutiny of this policy lies at the heart of the Commission's work. Ms. Gorelick has an inherent conflict of interest as the author of this memo and as a government official at the center of the events in questions. Thus, I believe the Commission's work and independence will be fatally damaged by the continued participation of Ms. Gorelick as a Commissioner. Reluctantly, I have come to the conclusion that Ms. Gorelick should resign from this Commission.

"The Commission's Guidelines on Recusals state, 'Commissioners and staff will recuse themselves from investigating work they performed in prior government service.' Commissioner Gorelick's memo directing a policy that 'go(es) beyond what is legally required' indicates that her judgment and actions as the Deputy Attorney General in the Reno Justice Department are very much in question before the Commission. Indeed Attorney General Ashcroft called this DOJ policy, 'the single greatest structural cause for September 11 ... (and) embraced flawed legal reasoning.' Commissioner Gorelick is in the unfair position of trying to address the key issue before the Commission when her own actions are central to the events at issue. The public cannot help but ask legitimate questions about her motives.

"While it is regrettable that this conflict had not come to light sooner, this Commission's work and forthcoming recommendations are too important to be questioned in this way, and may be devalued by Ms. Gorelick's continued participation as a Commissioner. Given Ms. Gorelick's work as the Deputy Attorney General under Janet Reno, Ms. Gorelick can be quite valuable to the Commission's work preparing 'a full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.' However, that contribution should come as a witness before the Commission - not as a member.

"Key figures like former FBI Director Freeh, Director Mueller, Attorney General Ashcroft, former presidential adviser Richard Clarke, and National Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice have all testified before the Commission and would have rightly sparked indignation about a conflict of interest had these individuals also been members of the Commission. Testifying before the Commission is Ms. Gorelick's proper role, not sitting as a member of this independent commission."


ooops, way to go Gorelick
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« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2004, 03:06:17 PM »
Saw Bush on tv today with his speech.
Just noticed this man looks 10 years older within 2 years.

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« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2004, 03:06:26 PM »
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are you considering the cruse missiles, on the eve of Monica and the impeachment a response?


Of .. let's say the 5 Presidents preceding GWB, which one had the most Americans killed by terrorist actions during his tenure?

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« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2004, 03:08:33 PM »
Who allowed the terrorist to become bolder in thier attacks?
Regan had his to deal with (Beruit,Lockerbie scotland sp?) and did little, bombing of libya.
Bush sr. I can't remember to many.
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« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2004, 03:10:51 PM »
Who dodged the first question?

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« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2004, 03:13:08 PM »
I can show 657 under Clinton. I don't remember the number under Regan, Beruit was around 200 yes?,  Airline bombing 100 something I think.
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« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2004, 03:13:24 PM »
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Saw Bush on tv today with his speech.
Just noticed this man looks 10 years older within 2 years.


True....didja see the bug in his ear?

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« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2004, 03:15:22 PM »
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I can show 657 under Clinton. I don't remember the number under Regan, Beruit was around 200 yes?,  Airline bombing 100 something I think.


657? Americans? Please tell me where?