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Offline VOR

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« on: April 17, 2004, 08:41:04 AM »
Why is it people often take credit for events they had no involvement in? Why is it necessary to blame people for the decisions of their respective governments, either current or in the past? And why for Cripe's sake do people read a post by one or two (insert nationality here) and reply to the effect "So this is what (nationality) are like"? Get a grip! Wake up!

I wasn't born until 1973...meaning, I didn't "save yer tulips in WW2". I'd make a hefty wager that most if not all of the people who like to use that phrase or abide by the spirit of it weren't there either, so STFU! Your grandfather (or whoever) was there, you say? So this gives you the right to use the word "we" in your debates? Give me an squealing break. Ask him to make a post here, and I'll hang on his every word. The moment you start using *his* accomplishments and sacrifices as fuel for *your* slanted agenda,  you belittle the efforts of your ancestors and open a big can of worms. The reciprocal is also true...what kind of brainiac looks at a German and says "YOU started WW2" or a Frenchman and says "YOU surrendered"? Please, in the name of all that is holy and sacred, stop embarrassing your country.

Note that although I have centered these complaints on my American countrymen, the same applies to you Canadians/ Europeans as well. This argument fits equally well on either foot if you just rearrange the text, and is certainly not applied solely to the politics or events of the past. I'm choosing not to name names, but you know who you are. Internet warriors one and all.

There...I've doused myself in lighter fluid by saying what I really think, so feel free to strike the match. I feel alot better, though.



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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2004, 08:44:11 AM »
I believe "we" is a rhetorical phrase meaning "The U.S." or "The U.K" etc.

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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2004, 08:46:24 AM »
VOR!

Exactly my feeling.
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Offline VOR

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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2004, 09:17:11 AM »
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I believe "we" is a rhetorical phrase meaning "The U.S." or "The U.K" etc.


Yeah Rip I'm in the loop on this part. I'm complaining more about a particular mindset or "vibe".

Offline Nilsen

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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2004, 09:28:11 AM »
Well said VOR.. this was a thread that was way overdue! :)

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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2004, 09:51:26 AM »
Ya except that if "we" don't learn from the toils and tribulations of our ancestors then "we" could and probably will end up "helping" "them"  again.  to this day we are garrisoning europe at a great expense to the american people "us".  I would ask you, what have "you" done in the service of your country? Voting for Gore doesn't count.

P.S.  It's unamerican to have so many euros agreeing with you

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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2004, 10:03:28 AM »
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I would ask you, what have "you" done in the service of your country? Voting for Gore doesn't count.


1995 Enlisted US Army. MOS 19k "armor crewmember"

1999 Deployed with 3rd Armored Cavalry Regt. to Bosnia

2002 Reclassified to MOS 93c "Air Traffic Control Specialist"

2003-2004 Deployed with 101 Airborne to Kuwait/Iraq

Still active duty. Didn't vote for Gore. Won't vote for Kerry.

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P.S. It's unamerican to have so many euros agreeing with you


Are you trolling, or do you have a mullet a-la Joe Dirt?
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storch

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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2004, 10:21:58 AM »
Well then snapper, for your service to our people on your choice for commander in chief.  for a photo of my haircut http://www.geocities.com/jagd3udet

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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2004, 10:23:50 AM »
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Originally posted by storch
Well then snapper, for your service to our people on your choice for commander in chief.  for a photo of my haircut http://www.geosites.com/jagd3udet


I receieved this when I clicked the link:

The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, due to the ugliness of the individual.
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Please try the following:

If you typed the page address in the Address bar, make sure that it is spelled correctly.

Open the http://www.geosites.com home page, and then look for links to the information you want.
Click the  Back button to try another link.
Click  Search to look for information on the Internet.



HTTP 404 - File not found
Internet Explorer


 
:confused:  (evil grin)

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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2004, 10:25:43 AM »
misspelled, corrected

Offline VOR

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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2004, 10:29:54 AM »
Ok, I retract my comment about your haircut.

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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2004, 11:39:39 AM »
VOR there is people who abuse the "we" word in all country.

It won't change the fact that only "my" daily action are the only that count really.

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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2004, 11:46:31 AM »
hehe just looked at that photo again.  My hair was long on that day because it was taken in the summer.  during the winter it's a quarter inch shorter, that's roughly 6mm for you less enlightened types.

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« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2004, 04:16:36 AM »
I agree VOR.  Please allow me to rant too because it makes me feel better.  Not directed toward you in particular.  We aren't called Ugly Americans for nothing.  And that term goes back a ways.  Americans are considered fools because of our generosity, often overdone to the point of where it looks like we're showing off and not sincere.  I'm afraid American tourists over seas have given the impression all Americans are rich and like to show their money clips.


But anyway, been going on a very long time...this attitude is how I heard it from my father, who served during WWII.  One thing...most of those tourists were not rich.  And very likely showing off.  To me, that's one explanation of why we are hated by the rest of the world.  Seems like all show and no substance to people who have never experienced total and complete freedom.


It's not that way for most of us, but I see how it breeds contempt amongst nations.  (Heck, most of us taking a trip to Europe would be spending a lifetime of savings for the trip.)  Thing is, Americans go to another country and act like we're still in the US...we think we have rights over there and can do as we please.  In a nutshell, the rest of the world considers us soft and stupid, and have for many years.  We live in a paradise they can only dream of.  For what it's worth, I consider myself very lucky to have been born here.




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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2004, 04:23:46 AM »
Maybe if you visit some 3. world country Leslie but none of what you said applies in western europe and least of all in Norway.