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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2004, 08:39:14 AM »
Palestinians respond:
What a genious... you can hide way more explosives strapped to your body underneath flowing robes with which you can kill many more zionists... allah be praised!

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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2004, 08:44:36 AM »
it's obvious GRUN , in no way a moustache can be a proper substitute of a real beard

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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2004, 08:52:32 AM »
Sick

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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2004, 10:14:26 AM »
I'm going to venture a bet that Arafat does not want to give up the business.  He is making way to much money off the the aid money the US is sending him.  It's not a bad deal, skim millions per year for playing the role of the victim.

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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2004, 10:32:30 AM »
Yasser Arafat is a world acknowleged man of peace while Mohandas Ghandi was not.  At least that is what the Nobel Prize committee thinks.
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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2004, 11:21:54 AM »
I had a weird dream couple nights ago.  I dreamed I had $16.00 and gave it to my friend to roll craps with.  In real life experience, this is the last guy you'd want gambling with your money.  But in the dream, he took that 16 bucks and won $14,000.00 with it rolling dice!!!

I think that's the happiest in a dream I've ever been.:D

Of course you know that would be impossible, don't you?  But it made for a great dream.  One that I'm more satisfied with being a dream than if it was real.

Too much stress.  






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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2004, 11:39:21 AM »
because he was filled with love -even for his enemies

while the pals are filled with hate with more than alittle ignorance
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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2004, 12:03:21 PM »
Everybody hates everybody over there in the Middle East.  Probably even more than they hate us.  "Drop the big one and see what happens.  They all hate us anyway."  Randy Newman




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« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2004, 12:22:42 PM »
Ghandi was killed by extremists on his own side. Unfortunately, the extremists in Palestine hold all the power.
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« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2004, 12:50:20 PM »
India was on the road to independence before Ghandi. Government acts in 1909 introduced Indian participation in a very limited self government.

In 1917 the British government announced a policy of "increasing association of Indians in every branch of the administration and the gradual development of self-governing institutions with a view to the progressive realization of responsible government in India as an integral part of the British Empire."

India was headed for dominion status (which was the same level of independence as Canada, Australia and New Zealand). It might have taken longer without Ghandi, but that is the direction they were heading anyway.

The status of the Palestinians is, and was, totaly different.

The Palestinians live on territory that Israel believes is part of Israel.

Haaretz is a left wing Israeli paper. Their commentator on the occupied territories, Nadav Shragai, summed up the views of Israel recently:

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We are not talking of colonialism. The morality of "settlement" after 1967, is equivalent to the morality of settling the land after 1948. Morally, historically and religiously, the right of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel, takes precedence over the right of other peoples here. The internal dispute within Israel is over what is possible within the framework of the security and international reality that the country faces.

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The majority of the Israeli public accepts the Bible as the moral, historic and religious basis for the Jewish presence on all of the Land of Israel. There is a dispute within Israel over whether this right can realistically be realised.


It doesn't matter how "nice" the Palestinians play, they are in the way of the "historic, religious and moral right" of the Jews to live in, and control, all of historic Israel.

To this end, Israel deported over 1,000 people from the occupied territories during the late 60s and early 70s. Political activists were deported, even if they advocated only peaceful protest.

If you think all the Palestinians have to do to get their own state is behave nicely, you're very naive.

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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2004, 01:03:22 PM »
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If you think all the Palestinians have to do to get their own state is behave nicely, you're very naive.


If you think their attempts to play hardball via intifada and terrorism is getting them anywhere you are very far from reality.

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« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2004, 01:05:25 PM »
The palestinians will allways hold a grudge because their guy was born illigitimate by a mistress and they think they have right to everything cause he was the first born

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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2004, 01:16:14 PM »
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If you think all the Palestinians have to do to get their own state is behave nicely, you're very naive.


Civil disobedience is not behaving 'nicely'.

Civil disobedience severly screws things up, just in a non-violent manner which brings the weight of world public opinion to change the status quo.

Public opinion can sway Israel policy makers as forcefully as it did Mountbatten or his predecessors, but public opinion does not get behind those who advocate killing commuters on busses or patrons in a restaurant.  

People like to root for the underdog but not if the dog is rabid.
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