Straffo (EU, terrorists, business) :-)

[dweebespit]

Hmmmm.....a frenchman supporting terrorists by calling them freedom fighters.  Who would have thought?


A few words for you:

War on terror worked great in Spain.

I see.  We should have just stood around and done nothing.  Make nice with the terrorists.  We should send them a big fruit basket.  

And you're right.  We clearly haven't blown up enough Iraqis.  As a matter of fact, I'm avidly for blowing them clear in submission or extinction.  Either way, the good ol' USA  is safe, and that's all that matters.  

It's pretty presumptuous to think that your value are universal and should be the norm.

Actually, yes.  Our values can, in fact, be enforced as the norm.  Truth be told, while we may have lost 90 men within the last few weeks, we've killed (by most estimations) we've killed 10 times that.  And yes, given numbers like that, these brown mother****ers are going to start seeing things our way sooner or later.  


Tell me something though, in your view is attacking 4 guys in a convoy, burning their bodies, and hanging them up from a bridge the norm?  

Is attacking people who are actively trying to make your country a better place for you an your children the norm?

Look man, I realize you fancy yourself a psuedo intellectual or something, but I think you should perhaps......brush up on reality a bit.  You, your morbidly obese pal Mike Moore, and Al Franken's  jew bellybutton can all sit around and spew this thinly vieled anti American crap you want.  The fact is, I think Moore realizes what he's saying is propoganda, and Franken realizes he's doing comedy.  You seem to really believe this stuff.

[straffo]

Originally posted by dweebespit
Hmmmm.....a frenchman supporting terrorists by calling them freedom fighters.  Who would have thought?

I find you sound stupid it's probably because you are.

A few words for you:

 

I see.  We should have just stood around and done nothing.  Make nice with the terrorists.  We should send them a big fruit basket.  

And you're right.  We clearly haven't blown up enough Iraqis.  As a matter of fact, I'm avidly for blowing them clear in submission or extinction.  Either way, the good ol' USA  is safe, and that's all that matters.  


Actually, yes.  Our values can, in fact, be enforced as the norm.  Truth be told, while we may have lost 90 men within the last few weeks, we've killed (by most estimations) we've killed 10 times that.  And yes, given numbers like that, these brown mother****ers are going to start seeing things our way sooner or later.  


Tell me something though, in your view is attacking 4 guys in a convoy, burning their bodies, and hanging them up from a bridge the norm?  

Is attacking people who are actively trying to make your country a better place for you an your children the norm?

Look man, I realize you fancy yourself a psuedo intellectual or something, but I think you should perhaps......brush up on reality a bit.  You, your morbidly obese pal Mike Moore, and Al Franken's  jew bellybutton can all sit around and spew this thinly vieled anti American crap you want.  The fact is, I think Moore realizes what he's saying is propoganda, and Franken realizes he's doing comedy.  You seem to really believe this stuff.

Good you finally notice I'm anti-american !
Do you know I burn an American flag at breafast each day ?

[Pepe]

Originally posted by straffo
War on terror worked great in Spain.

There is an error on the words' sequence. The real phrase is "War on Spain worked great for terrror"...of course fueled by some irresponsible politicians, unscrupulous press and a good amount of heers of the Socialist education reform in 1.990.

I guess we harvest what we seed.  

[straffo]

Originally posted by dweebespit
That line works so well when you say it in broken English.  


 

At least you admit it.


Thanks for responding to the points listed in my last posts.  It helps your credibility.

I won't waste my time answering your crap.

Notice : if you piss me I'll do my best to piss you.


I guess that my broken english make my post lacking credibility,let continue in French we will see how easy you can express your view.

But I think there is no value for you in a discution with a pseudo-intellectual French,especially if this discution is in French.


@pepe : as you already know my remark was not directed to you or any Spaniard but more because of the following derogatory comment from a stupid individual :

a frenchman supporting terrorists

[dweebespit]

I won't waste my time answering your crap.

That's very convienent.  You just did.  You mean you don't want to respond to the points that I've made, because they are woefully out of your league.  

Notice : if you piss me I'll do my best to piss you.

Whatever that means.  Go to the message board at: http://www.frenchgoldenshowers.com


"I guess that my broken english make my post lacking credibility"

I never said that.  Learn to read.  I said 2 very different ideas:

1.  Your insult is ineffective because your English sucks.
2.  The fact that you chose to begin insulting me, rather then responding to a single point that I made, is what makes your posts lack credibility.  


Perhaps if you were to spend more time reading what is really happening over what you want to be happening, you won't be drawing lamo conclusions like 'Those terrorists in Iraq are just like the french resistance in WWII'.

[deSelys]

Originally posted by dweebespit
Actually, yes.  Our values can, in fact, be enforced as the norm.  Truth be told, while we may have lost 90 men within the last few weeks, we've killed (by most estimations) we've killed 10 times that.  And yes, given numbers like that, these brown mother****ers are going to start seeing things our way sooner or later.  

When arrogance meets ignorance...

Originally posted by dweebespit
And you're right.  We clearly haven't blown up enough Iraqis.  As a matter of fact, I'm avidly for blowing them clear in submission or extinction.  Either way, the good ol' USA  is safe, and that's all that matters.  

You would have felt quite comfortable in Germany in 1938, wouldn't have you?

[dweebespit]

What's arrogant about saying that we're killing bad people at a high enough rate that we'll ultimately accomplish our goals?


What's ignorant about that?

You would have felt quite comfortable in Germany in 1938, wouldn't have you?

It's interesting that a jingoist or nationalist opinion is immediately identified with being Nazi.  

"don't love your country, thats what hitler did"


I don't think there's anything NAZI about me.  On just about every domestic issue,  I'm all about the liberal application of rights.  I'm a firm believer that Americans should be able to do just about anything they want as long as it doesn't hinder anybody else.  On all things foreign policy, I believe that _anyone_ who poses a threat to our national security should be blown to little bits and pieces and shown on CNN.  Wait.  No.  Develop more spectacular bombs and put that stuff on Pay-Per-View.

[deSelys]

Love your country all you want, I don't care.

But this desire to blow up an entire nation just because they don't share your view makes you a Nazi (and btw the use of 'brown' add some racist cream on this disgusting cake)


And about ignorance: history showed that killing people is NOT the way to make them share your views...

[dweebespit]

Actually, I don't mind blowing up a people who want to threaten our interests.  See, we Americans pay this guy named Bush.  Bush's job is to ensure the safety of our interests, both domestic and over seas.  In order to do his job correctly, he's going to have to crack a few skulls.  Very simple.  


How does brown appear racist?  The people in Iraq are, in fact, brown.  Right?

[deSelys]

Originally posted by dweebespit
...In order to do his job correctly, he's going to have to crack a few skulls.  Very simple...

Ok, I got trolled, my bad...

[ravells]

And you're right. We clearly haven't blown up enough Iraqis. As a matter of fact, I'm avidly for blowing them clear in submission or extinction.

And yes, given numbers like that, these brown mother****ers are going to start seeing things our way sooner or later.  

OK, I'll bite. If you don't consider these as racist statements, dweebspit, what would you consider a racist statement?

How does brown appear racist? The people in Iraq are, in fact, brown. Right?

Not right. Many of them are very fair. You would not be able to tell them apart from say, a WASP American or a lightly tanned Californian.

Ravs

[dweebespit]

Oh right.......

Great way to get myself knocked.  


Racist:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=racist


Racist would be:

"we should kill them because they're brown"

I said:

"we should kill those brown folks because they're threatening our interests"

Major difference.  See how quickly the insults fly around here?  I've now been called dumb, racist, and nazi by these supposedly 'open minded' Euro types.

Edit - I'm yet to see any photos of Iraqi's looking WASP.  I would submit, that while what you're saying might be true to a more reasonable degree further south (Saudi Arabia) and West (jordan, Syria), Iraq remains the extreme Eastern flank of the Arab world, therefor precluding it to darker skin and often times more Persian-looking in nature due to it's neighboring with the west side of Iran, just as Iran's east side is more along the lines of the central asian or modern mongol appearance.

[ravells]

OK. Let's take a look at the definition you referred to for racist:

1.    The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.

2.   Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

Now, bearing in mind definition 2. let's take a look at the definition of 'discrimination' in the same dictionary:

1. ..

2. ..

3. Treatment or consideration based on class or category rather than individual merit; partiality or prejudice: racial discrimination; discrimination against foreigners

Now, let's take a look at the definition of prejudice in the same dictionary:

1.  An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts.

2.  A preconceived preference or idea.

3.  The act or state of holding unreasonable preconceived judgments or convictions...

4.   Irrational suspicion or hatred of a particular group, race, or religion.

5.  Detriment or injury caused to a person by the preconceived, unfavorable conviction of another or others.

Seems to me that what you are saying is that we should kill all Arabs because some of them represent a threat to the US.

Put in 'dictionary' terms, it seems to me that:

a.  you have an irrational suspicion or hatred of a particular group, race or religion. (arabs). Irrational because you advocate the destruction of all of them (regardless of who they are as individuals and what they believe in as individuals)

b. It also seems to me that you have unreasonable preconcieved judgments or convictions about arab people in general. You appear to think they are all out to destroy the US.

I think I could probably make a case for one or two of the other definitions.  

If you were merely pointing out that Arabs are (generally) brown and it was Arabs who wanted to harm the US that you wanted to kill (who would also be generally brown) then, yes, I can see you're merely making an observation that Arabs are generally brown.

Re WASP looking Iraqis, I'll post you a photo here when I get home tonight of some friends of mine. See if you can spot the Iraqi! I'd agree with you that the marjority of Iraqis are brown, though.

Ravs

[airguard]

terror grow on the attention it gets, and for the time beeing they get it big time.

Im not a expert, but If our money hungry newspapers and tv stations didnt do such a good job for the terrorists they woulda walked pretty lonesome in the desert.

And here we go doing the same job beeing experts of how to deal with them, we are a bunch of sofa sitting morons thinking the brains outta ourselve and having one bad idea after the other.

But I have to agree It is good entertainment seeing all the posts here

[straffo]

bye bye mister Troll.

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