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« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2004, 12:20:28 PM »
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didn't Germans get to vote Monk?
I know polls shows that most Danes wants out and the Italians I know want's to get out too....mainly because of the euro.

Hopefully there will be along time before we get to vote again, bucause i think the yes crowd has a very small lead.


Nope,  sad really.

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« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2004, 12:53:53 PM »
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a. you have an irrational suspicion or hatred of a particular group, race or religion. (arabs). Irrational because you advocate the destruction of all of them (regardless of who they are as individuals and what they believe in as individuals)


It seems to me that you're drawing a very poor conclusion based on a single statement, which you are manipulating in your mind to mean more then you think.


I think you're missing the 'whatever it takes' part of what I'm saying.  Allow me to re-explain:

Anyone who hinders our progress in Iraq should be labeled an enemy should be labeled an enemy and either captured or killed.  End of story.  


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If you were merely pointing out that Arabs are (generally) brown and it was Arabs who wanted to harm the US that you wanted to kill (who would also be generally brown) then, yes, I can see you're merely making an observation that Arabs are generally brown


Which is exactly what I'm saying, save foryour use of the past tence of 'want' meaning that these individuals no longer want to harm the US.  They _do_ want to harm the US.  


By the way, everyone take notice that rather trying to proove me wrong using an amount of logic, he's put me on ignore.  Even funnier perhaps, is this thing which is apparently supposed to mean that he has accomplished something.  


Of course, thats the way his country has been doing things since pre-wwII - sticking their head in the sand and pretending like it's not happening.  




You are truly living the French life, Straffo.

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« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2004, 06:46:38 PM »
Well I was using the dictionary you offered

Let me remind you of what you said:

And you're right. We clearly haven't blown up enough Iraqis. As a matter of fact, I'm avidly for blowing them clear in submission or extinction.  

but you want to just kill those Iraqi's who (and I'm using your words here)

hinders our progress in Iraq should be labeled an enemy should be labeled an enemy and either captured or killed. End of story.

Now what does...'hinder our progress' mean exactly? That could cover anything from violent opposition to merely not cooperating. Do you *really* want all these people dead? Why? merely because they are hindering 'your' progress?(and given that the American people are quite divided on the subject, I wonder who 'you' is)  Isn't the point of replacing the previous regime that we are giving people the opportunity of dissent? Don't you think your initial reaction was a bit extreme?

Let's now move to the 'brown' comment. I suggested that it was you saying that the word 'brown' in this case was merely a label. So perhaps you didn't express yourself properly the first time, because you actually said:

these brown mother****ers are going to start seeing things our way sooner or later.

Now, if you were merely pointing out that Arabs are (generally) brown and it was Arabs who wanted to harm the US that you wanted to kill (who would also be generally brown) then, yes, I can see you're merely making an observation that Arabs are generally brown,  you should have said that in the first place.

But let me ask you this. Why did you feel the need to point out that Arabs were (generally) brown when most of us know that anyway?

No. I think you're being a bit disingenous and backpeddling on perhaps what was something you may have said in haste and now regret but trying to justify.

Your use of the word 'brown mother****ers makes it pretty plain to me that you group a people of a particular race or colour as 'the enemy'. Do you know any 'brown mother***ers' who are nice people?

And now to the 'spot the Iraqi quiz'. And let's make it easy.

Which of these people do you think is an Iraqi?



Let me give you clue: I'm the 'brown motherf***er' in the middle.

dweebspit, you need to get a few things straight in your head.

It does not make any sense to call for the extinction of a people, because there are some bad apples in the barrel.  There are bad apples in the barrel everywhere, even in America.

Your use of a term like 'brown mother***er' really does not advance your cause. If anything, it revereses it.

You could just apologise for flying off the handle in your earlier posts and point out that you don't really think that all Arabs should be exterminated rather than trying to justifying yourself.

Ravs

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« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2004, 07:32:14 PM »
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Now what does...'hinder our progress' mean exactly?


Anyone who is actively making our job more difficult.


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Isn't the point of replacing the previous regime that we are giving people the opportunity of dissent? Don't you think your initial reaction was a bit extreme?



They have that opportunity.  Just not while killing Americans who are trying to give these idiots a hand.


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But let me ask you this. Why did you feel the need to point out that Arabs were (generally) brown when most of us know that anyway?


I'm curious.  Why does it bother you that I called Arab people brown?  Are they not proud to be brown?  And don't you think if I were a racist, i'd pick some of the much more colorfull terms for arabs?  


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Your use of the word 'brown mother****ers makes it pretty plain to me that you group a people of a particular race or colour as 'the enemy'.


Well it is true that there are a great deal of arabs who spend quite a bit of time burning flags, plotting terrorist attacks, yada yada.  


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Let me give you clue: I'm the 'brown motherf***er' in the middle.


Damn.  You're ugly.



Now you need to get a few things straight in your head:


I would gladly see that extinction before I'd see another 9/11.  Hell, if it came between me seeing a single American die or watching the destruction of the entire middle east, I'll press the button myself.  



I'll be Golly-geened if I'm expected to apologise for holding the belief that the safety of my fellow country men is far more important then the well being of any other country.  


But of course, the Arab world is more then welcome to prevent the US from having to come over there and kill ****loads of people.  All they have to do, is start fighting terrorists within their own boarders.  But why don't they do that?


................because they support terrorism.  Because deep down they agree with what these wingnuts are trying to do.  Otherwise, why not fight back?


So in all actuality, it's not just these few bad apples (like the 10,000 bad apples we've had to snuff in Iraq) it's also bred right into the infrastructures...the governments who don't do a damn thing.  Well why doesn't the church stand up and tell these people what they're doing is wrong and that it's going to get a lot of people killed?  



............ohhhhh right, because again these zealous screwballs believe in what the terrorists are doing too.  


But I suppose when you do the math, we're still dealing with a 'few bad apples', ey?

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« Reply #34 on: April 23, 2004, 04:54:59 AM »
At least we can agree on one thing dweeb,

I am ugly. :)

It doesn't bother me at all for you to call arab people brown. I do find it disturbing when you call them brown mother****rs who all deserve to die - (although I think that's now been revised to only those who hinder US policy). Oh btw, the Iraqi in the picture is the girl on the right as you look at it.

I'm not questioning your patriotism. Again I hope your 'I'd rather press the button to destroy the middle east than see one American die', is an exaggeration.

In fact Muslim countries have (finally) offered to put troops on the ground in Iraq, but only under a UN run operation. See here .

Well why doesn't the church stand up and tell these people what they're doing is wrong and that it's going to get a lot of people killed?

In fact there are...you just don't hear about it because it's not news. look
here for example.

Arrests of suspected terrorists are taking place in muslim countries, like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Egypt and Morocco for example.

However I do agree with you that Arab states could do more to distance themselves from anti-american sentiment which advocates the use of violence, or certainly give Americans the perception that they are doing more.

It's a pity that the qualities that many Arabs and Americans have in common (both incredibly generous and both incredibly hospitiable). But part of the reason why we have this problem of perception in the first place is that people are really keen to believe the worst of others when quite often having no direct experiece themselves.

Ravs

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« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2004, 06:20:06 AM »
Ravs, just a few questions.

What is that meat looking stuff that is partially eaten?

Is that Danish butter?

How much wine is left in the bottle?

How is such a funny looking man surrounded by women?

Do tell.

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« Reply #36 on: April 23, 2004, 06:29:11 AM »
Ravells,
you have my full sympathy and respect. I couldnt have said it better.
And i really miss some administrator comments in here. But..uh..i forgot..i am in the Klan club err O'club here and almost everything is allowed.


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« Reply #37 on: April 23, 2004, 06:46:08 AM »
well said seeker (the thing GS quoted)

Ravs.....i have the same shirt i think..what brand is it ?


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« Reply #38 on: April 23, 2004, 06:48:19 AM »
Ravs has a harem? Obviously a man of means, harem's are damnably expensive these days!!

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« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2004, 06:51:08 AM »
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Ravells,
you have my full sympathy and respect. I couldnt have said it better.
And i really miss some administrator comments in here. But..uh..i forgot..i am in the Klan club err O'club here and almost everything is allowed.


Ecke


Just don't say anything that Admin thinks is nasty - course killing and slaughter and racism is just fine!!

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« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2004, 06:52:43 AM »
What is that meat looking stuff that is partially eaten?  

Olive pate, I think.

Is that Danish butter?

No idea.

How much wine is left in the bottle?  

The wine bottle is always half empty.

How is such a funny looking man surrounded by women?  

Dumb luck.

thanks Ecke.

Nilsen - it's an old flannel shirt I got from the a camping shop...Artex? or something ike that.

Shaden: Harems are what us brown folk are good at!

Ravs  :)

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« Reply #41 on: April 23, 2004, 06:56:08 AM »
Ahh, not the same shirt i have then :D

give us a short bio of all the women in the pic..... thank you

btw..i am 180, 88kg and a nice boy...or so my mom sais anyway

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« Reply #42 on: April 23, 2004, 06:57:30 AM »
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Now; I applaud the downfall of Saddam; but democratic governments lieing thier people into war absolutly appalls me; full stop. I equate it with the famous falsehoods preceeding Poland's invasion; and such; find it unforgiveable.
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It is only a lie if it is intentional. If the governments thought they were telling the truth, are yuo still just as "appaled" as you claim to be now?

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2) When it comes to the "war on terrorism"; I don't believe England owes America a dime. Yanks have held fund raisers for the IRA for decades; America has sponsored and feted terrorists who not only blew the limbs off British school children; but even targeted Americans (the Harrods bombing). America has deliberatly funded "regime de-stabilisation" in every continent; and now, suddenly, it's a "war on terror".....
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Here you fail to make a distinction between "america" and "americans". Im almost hesitant to point this out since it blows yuor theory out of the water, but still it is the simple truth.

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IF the American position that the only cure to "the Irish problem" is dialog; not arms (and to be fair; I've a sneaking suspicion they may be right); then why is there no dialog with Al quida? I realise that that's an enormously provocative statement to Americans; but it's no more provacative then seeing an American President shake Gerry Adams hand.
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To understand the difference between the IRA and Al Queida, I suppose one would be able to read newspapers or watch television news or otherwise stay in touch with reality. Lets just say that there is a slight difference in what Al Queidas ultimate goals are, and what IRAs ultimate goals were. There is also a slight difference in tactics and operations.

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Strange to think that wo years ago Americans, French, Germans and even Russians were fighting side by side (in Afghanistan); and how quickly Bush blew that alliance apart.


Why are you attempting to put the blame on Bush? Is it not just as much the fault of Germany, France and Russia? In Sweden we have a saying that roughly translates to "it is rarely the fault of one, if two are fighting."

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« Reply #43 on: April 23, 2004, 08:21:53 AM »
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Ahh, not the same shirt i have then :D

give us a short bio of all the women in the pic..... thank you

btw..i am 180, 88kg and a nice boy...or so my mom sais anyway


Lol Nilsen.

The one on the left, Belinda, is Irish and just got married.
The one on the right, Samnia, is the girlfriend of one of my best friends.
The one at the back, Felicity, is married to me.

Anyway, you're from Norway, which I visited many years ago. No end of beautiful ladies there!

Ravs

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« Reply #44 on: April 23, 2004, 08:26:44 AM »
hehe

I have a gf but there is always room for one more.

Enjoy them all Ravs, in 50 years they are gonna look old.