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Offline Gunslinger

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« on: April 21, 2004, 02:57:04 PM »
cover story at pMSNBC.com

also here are his "posted" citations

http://wid.ap.org/documents/kerry/purplehearts.pdf
http://wid.ap.org/documents/kerry/stars.pdf
http://wid.ap.org/documents/kerry/actionreports.pdf



Kerry campaign provides military records
Move counters GOP criticism of 3-time Purple Heart winnerThe Associated Press
Updated: 3:29 p.m. ET April  21, 2004WASHINGTON - John Kerry’s campaign is posting his military records on the Internet as his critics question the combat injuries that earned him three Purple Hearts and an early exit from Vietnam.


The first records posted Tuesday night on Kerry’s campaign Web site documented the awards that have been a highlight of Kerry’s biography as the Democrat seeks to oust President Bush in November.

During nearly five months as the commander of a Navy swiftboat in the Mekong Delta, Kerry was awarded the Bronze Star for heroic achievement, the Silver Star for gallantry in action and three Purple Hearts for injuries that included shrapnel wounds to his arms, legs and buttocks.

Conservatives, talk radio hosts and some newspaper editorials have questioned the seriousness of his injuries and whether the Massachusetts senator was deserving of the three Purple Hearts, which resulted in his reassignment out of Vietnam.

Kerry’s former commanding officer, Lt. Cmdr. Grant Hibbard, told the Boston Globe last week that Kerry’s first Purple Heart came from minor wound, resembling a fingernail scrape.


Besides the citations and certificates posted on the Internet, Kerry’s campaign provided The Associated Press with declassified reports that briefly explain the injuries that led to Kerry’s final two Purple Heart awards.

They show Kerry had shrapnel wounds in his left thigh after his boat came under intense fire on Feb. 20, 1969, and he suffered shrapnel wounds in his left buttock and contusions on his right forearm when a mine detonated close to his boat on March 13, 1969.

  On the Web
John Kerry’s Purple Heart citations (PDF)

John Kerry’s bronze and silver star citations (PDF)

Reports on John Kerry’s wounds (PDF)
 
 
 


The campaign could not locate a similar report for Kerry’s original Purple Heart. As evidence that Kerry was wounded, campaign spokesman Michael Meehan showed The Associated Press a “Sick Call Treatment Record” from Kerry’s personal files that included a brief written note dated Dec. 3, 1968, and stamped from the naval support facility at Cam Ranh Bay.

“Shrapnel in left arm above elbow. Shrapnel removed and appl bacitracin dressing. Ret to Duty,” it said. The note is followed by a signature that appears to say “JCCarreon” and some illegible letters that Meehan said probably designate the medical official’s rank.

Meehan said the campaign would allow a reporter to see the record at the campaign’s headquarters, but not take a copy. He said it would not be made available to the public because Kerry considers it a private medical record.

Documentation for the other two injuries shows that Kerry was deemed to be in good condition and returned to active duty after treatment. The documentation does not describe the severity of the injuries.

After the third Purple Heart, the Navy was required to reassign Kerry out of Vietnam, and a document dated March 17, 1969, said Kerry requested duty as a personal aide in Boston, New York or the Washington area. Kerry could have volunteered to stay in Vietnam, but left the country in early April 1969.

Along with his final Purple Heart, Kerry received the Bronze Star after being wounded by the mine. One of his boatmates was thrown overboard in the blast, but Kerry pulled him to safety.

Kerry did this with “his arm bleeding and in pain and with disregard for his personal safety,” according to the citation. Kerry and the man who went overboard, retired Los Angeles police officer Jim Rassmann, had an emotional public reunion in January, two days before Kerry would win the Iowa caucuses.

Democrats have been touting Kerry’s decorated service during the wartime presidential race and contrasting it with President Bush’s lack of combat experience.

“We are happy to compare Senator Kerry’s record of service to anybody in the Bush campaign who has or has not served,” Meehan said.

Bush was in the Texas Air National Guard during the Vietnam War, but did not serve in combat. Bush released hundreds of pages of his Vietnam-era military records in February to counter Democrats’ suggestions that he shirked his duty in the Texas Air National Guard.

The White House said the documents comprise his entire military record. The records did not provide evidence that Bush attended drills while in Alabama during a period when Democrats have questioned whether he reported for service. The records did include a dental examination at an Alabama military facility.

When asked about the questions surrounding his Purple Hearts Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” Kerry said all his military records are available to the public. Meehan said Kerry requested a copy of his record from the Navy last month and received roughly 150 pages last week. He said the entire file would be posted online.

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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2004, 03:00:12 PM »
Did Bush show his medals yet?

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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2004, 03:26:41 PM »
NOPE but he did release ALL his records a few months ago after the dems whined and cried about it.  Kerry still hasnt released ALL of his yet.

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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2004, 03:42:20 PM »
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NOPE but he did release ALL his records a few months ago  


His arrest records too?

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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2004, 03:54:16 PM »
lmfao...bactin ...

btw..

Kerry Says.."people dont know me"...problem is we do know you..

Linguine spinned left wing wako Liberal..

the same guy North Korea- and the rest of the worlds terrorist want in office...



GO BUSH!

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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2004, 04:01:03 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2004, 04:05:08 PM »
Geesh what sort of screwed up Navy does the USA have to hand out Purple Hearts for Finger nail scrapes?

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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2004, 04:07:36 PM »
Whadd'ya tryn'a say Vorticon?
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2004, 04:16:53 PM »
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a mans military career has nothing to do with his politics



ohhh contrare vorticon,

I think it says a lot about the mans moral fiber and his ideals...

Which Kerry seems to be lacking in every sense.
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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2004, 04:21:13 PM »
apologies to the US Navy, not so screwed up after all.

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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2004, 04:26:30 PM »
I'm sure you could dig up info on injuries about alot of vets. I guess we could do that and take away from their brave service. Especially that of those who instead of retreating in the face bullets, attacked.
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« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2004, 04:51:07 PM »
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Did Bush show his medals yet?

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Who's medals does Kerry have hanging on his wall? I thought he threw all his medals over the Whitehouse fence in a protest against the Vietnam war.

FLIP... "waaaa take the medals back"

FLOP... "I'm a hero and proud of my service"

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« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2004, 05:38:52 PM »
Here's one document you won't find in Dubyas military records....

http://www.johnkerry.com/about/Request_For_Swiftboat_Duty.pdf

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« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2004, 05:43:55 PM »
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NOPE but he did release ALL his records a few months ago after the dems whined and cried about it.  Kerry still hasnt released ALL of his yet.


ahem....all that were politcaly innocuous were released.

His records were cleaned up by the guy he put in charge of the TNG.

Kerry has released his entire record, warts and all, on his web site.