Author Topic: Kerry Military Records - 20 Unofficial Kills (Read 2074 times)

Sixpence · « **Reply #45 on:** April 22, 2004, 11:12:41 AM »

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Originally posted by Capt. Pork
That being said, the reason I hate the idea of a guy like Kerry coming into power is that he will inevitably limit my ability to live my life and provide for my family to the fullest extent of reasonable possibilities.

Hey, i've already had my privacy taken away, he had nothing to do with that. Sure, republicans have never raised taxes. Bush has refused to give Congress a number on the tax dollars it will need for Afghanistan and Iraq next year, nor have they asked for a dime. They are playing politics, of course, they do not want to let Congress know til after the election. Do not be surprised when you are asked to give that tax credit back.

muckmaw · « **Reply #46 on:** April 22, 2004, 11:20:50 AM »

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Originally posted by Capt. Pork
Actually, I love this country. Moreso than the likes of you will ever understand. Unlike you, I've actually lived behind the Iron curtain and can therefore appreciate what we have here to its fullest extent. Furthermore, I respect all veterans that put their lives on the line. It's not Kerry's service record that makes me shutter. If he were just a Veteran that did his job then, at worst, I'd have no response to him, no matter what his opinions were when he came back from the war.

That being said, the reason I hate the idea of a guy like Kerry coming into power is that he will inevitably limit my ability to live my life and provide for my family to the fullest extent of reasonable possibilities.

Estate taxes, income taxes, the inevitable socialist regulations he will almost certainly impose on the health care industry--these are the things that make me hate the idea of him being in charge. My family left a dead-end system once in the last 22 years. It would make me very sad to see the same trends arising here.

No matter what happened in Vietnam decades ago, Kerry is NOT a representation of what it is to be American. Repeat, in deference to you STRK, Kerry is NOT America Personified. Bush, while far, far from perfect, is far closer.

I do not hate this country, and shame on you for saying it. You're a simplistic little man for allowing yourself to put such declarations down in writing simply because I do not see eye-to-eye with you. I seriously hope it was a lapse in judgement on your part.

I LOVE PORK!! I LOVE PORK!!!

Very well said, sir.

lazs2 · « **Reply #47 on:** April 22, 2004, 11:29:00 AM »

I greatly admired Autie Murphy and that colonel or whatever that ran with perot for vice president... both were damaged goods tho by their experiance as is mccain... I wouldn't want any of em in too high an office...

Just seeing kerry with hanoi jane and co. is enough to put him in the same "damaged goods" class. you don't want him to be in a position to make decisions.

lazs

muckmaw · « **Reply #48 on:** April 22, 2004, 11:29:23 AM »

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Originally posted by deSelys
RPM!

It can be argued forever who would be best Prez between Kerry and Bushman26, but if the country has to go to war I prefer to follow a leader who've already heard bullets zip past his ears.

There's a Vietnam vert who lives behind the 7-11 on Hempstead Tpke. Crazy as a loon, but he was in combat. He was hit in the chest too, from what I hear. He's usually too drunk or drugged up to talk to, but he's free for the next 4 years.

You want to elect him too? I mean...he was in combat so he must be qualified, right?

Fact is, military service, though commendable and worthy of praise is not indicative of a good leader, especially in this case.

The democrats are trying to make Kerry look like he's good for homeland securitiy...the biggest concern among registered voeters when polled. Unfortunatley, we keep running into the now famous Kerry Defense Cut Votes and Inteligence community votes.

The bottom line for me is John Kerry does not represent me or my interests therefore as of this writing he will not get my vote.

airguard · « **Reply #49 on:** April 22, 2004, 11:33:10 AM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
So strk, you want a murderer for president?

Intresting to see how you twist things rip, if it is the guy in a soldiers uniform that is the murderer or the presidents saying go for it that is the murderer. What is the problem (think none of them, but that is based of the reasone they go to war)

But dont come with that crap ripsnort you know better I guess.

muckmaw · « **Reply #50 on:** April 22, 2004, 11:54:58 AM »

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Originally posted by airguard
Intresting to see how you twist things rip, if it is the guy in a soldiers uniform that is the murderer or the presidents saying go for it that is the murderer. What is the problem (think none of them, but that is based of the reasone they go to war)

But dont come with that crap ripsnort you know better I guess.

I am pretty sure Rip was being sarcastic, mocking the anti-war crowd who normally label soldiers as "baby-killers".

airguard · « **Reply #51 on:** April 22, 2004, 12:03:22 PM »

Hehe I wondered about that too, but guess you are right.
Not that easy when my launguage is norwegian, and somthimes i just dont get the sarcasm i guess

Otto · « **Reply #52 on:** April 22, 2004, 01:41:24 PM »

I don't think Kerry is going to win. Just a feeling...

deSelys · « **Reply #53 on:** April 22, 2004, 01:43:32 PM »

Muck, re-read my post and then edit yours to only argument about what I've actually written.

muckmaw · « **Reply #54 on:** April 22, 2004, 02:55:34 PM »

DS-

Whats to edit?

You said you would vote for someone who's seen combat before someone who has not.

My comment is simple statement that just because a man has been in combat does not qualify him for such a lofty office as President of the United States.

Habu · « **Reply #55 on:** April 22, 2004, 03:06:59 PM »

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Originally posted by AdmRose
After that, he single handedly charged into Hanoi with an M-16 in each hand, guns blazing Rambo style, taking out rows and rows of VC with every block until he finally came upon Ho Chi Mihn and decapitated him with one blow, leaving the city with his head on a pike. - Excerpt from "How John Kerry Singlehandedly Won the Vietnam War"

Actually he did not win the war single handedly nor did he ever claim to. What he did do is learn his craft well and perform it without cowardice. He saved a few lives with his action and was right in the thick of things.

There were many in Vietnam who never saw the outside of an airconditioned office. There were many in those days who avoided the draft and the war and never contributed. There were some that went over and were cowards under fire. Guys like Kerry are exactly what the US armed forces wanted then and now. Brave and smart and cool under fire. Not heros or Rambos but just good soldiers.

You have a problem with that?

2stony · « **Reply #56 on:** April 22, 2004, 03:08:08 PM »

Originally posted by Ripsnort:

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So strk, you want a murderer for president?

If Bush had this kind of record, would you still vote for him Rip?

rpm · « **Reply #57 on:** April 22, 2004, 03:11:45 PM »

What do you mean? Bush stopped an entire VC Battallion from invading Texas, then pulled a flanking maneuver and singlehandedly saved Alabama with nothing more than flares and training rounds.

Sixpence · « **Reply #58 on:** April 22, 2004, 03:24:17 PM »

Lol, could you see if Bush Sr was a democrat?

Democrats: But he is a war vet who made sure his crew bailed from a burning aircraft before bailing himself, then pulled out his pistol and prepared to fight til the death against a Japanese patrol boat.

Republicans: First of all, the aircraft was still flight worthy and should have been returned to base. Second of all, that wasn't a patrol boat, it was a harmless Japanese fishing boat. Third, his pistol probably would not have worked and he did not have it when he was pulled aboard the submarine, he probably threw it away to surrender. He lost a plane, crew, and pistol, just to take a swim, he should be shot.

muckmaw · « **Reply #59 on:** April 22, 2004, 03:25:16 PM »

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Originally posted by Habu
Actually he did not win the war single handedly nor did he ever claim to. What he did do is learn his craft well and perform it without cowardice. He saved a few lives with his action and was right in the thick of things.

There were many in Vietnam who never saw the outside of an airconditioned office. There were many in those days who avoided the draft and the war and never contributed. There were some that went over and were cowards under fire. Guys like Kerry are exactly what the US armed forces wanted then and now. Brave and smart and cool under fire. Not heros or Rambos but just good soldiers.

You have a problem with that?

Apparently, John Kerry had a problem with that, considering he did nothing but protest the war after he got back.

He must have been real proud of his service to his country to join up with Hanoi Jane and toss "His" medals on the White House lawn.

Pretty convenient how now, that he's running for president, he's a proud Vietnam vet.

Whatever he did in Vietnam was negated in my mind when he crawled into bed with the spokeswoman of the NVA.

Sorry, Johnny.