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Offline gofaster

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If your son were a football star...
« on: April 22, 2004, 12:45:10 PM »
... would you seriously try to manipulate who drafted him?

Archie Manning may or may not be playing the media.

Of course, if I were in the Chargers draft warroom, I'd trade down and try to claim a couple of good players farther down the line.  Eli Manning can't save the Chargers by himself.

edit: Didn't Elway do something like this, by declaring that he wouldn't play for the Baltimore Colts because they sucked big time, so the Colts traded his draft option to the Broncos?
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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2004, 01:27:10 PM »
Kind of makes the draft useless if the players pick their teams instead of vice versa.
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2004, 02:35:21 PM »
I'd take a half decent veteran over a number one draft pick anyday.
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2004, 02:42:05 PM »
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I'd take a half decent veteran over a number one draft pick anyday.


I see no problem in any of this. A player should have every right to try to influence how his career will proceed, so long as he does so within the letter of the law. This goes for asking a family member who has influence to exercise it, IMO.

I agree San Diego would get more value from the draft by trading down, regardless of Manning's desires.

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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2004, 02:47:43 PM »
If my son was a football star I would prefer him to play for Arsenal.

If not, then any team in the Serie A.
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2004, 02:50:30 PM »
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If my son was a football star I would prefer him to play for Arsenal.

If not, then any team in the Serie A.


We're not talking the girly game of Soccer, where men dress like tourists in Hawaii... we're talking manly stuff here, the sport that takes muscle, and is so dangerous that protective pads and helmuts are necessary.

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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2004, 02:54:30 PM »
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I see no problem in any of this. A player should have every right to try to influence how his career will proceed, so long as he does so within the letter of the law. This goes for asking a family member who has influence to exercise it, IMO.

I agree San Diego would get more value from the draft by trading down, regardless of Manning's desires.

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You do not understand, they will not get more value because the action of Eli and his dad has just devalued their pick.
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2004, 03:03:38 PM »
I'de retire

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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2004, 03:05:26 PM »
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We're not talking the girly game of Soccer, where men dress like tourists in Hawaii... we're talking manly stuff here, the sport that takes muscle, and is so dangerous that protective pads and helmuts are necessary.


Soccer is a word made up by people, who don't have the talent to play a physical game with finese, in order to distinguish it from the knuckle dragging slamming of heads exercise that they call "football".
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2004, 03:14:02 PM »
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Soccer is a word made up by people, who don't have the talent to play a physical game with finese, in order to distinguish it from the knuckle dragging slamming of heads exercise that they call "football".


Hell, Soccer takes skill? What, running? They don't even use half their body! ;)  Of course their hands are too busy grabbing each others booty.

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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2004, 03:15:56 PM »
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Soccer is a word made up by people, who don't have the talent to play a physical game with finese, in order to distinguish it from the knuckle dragging slamming of heads exercise that they call "football".


Yeah, it takes alot of finesse for two guys to smack their heads together w/o head gear because they can't use their hands. Or jumping up and down while they cover their groin with both hands, ahhh, finesse.
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2004, 03:16:01 PM »
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Hell, Soccer takes skill? What, running? They don't even use half their body! ;)  Of course their hands are too busy grabbing each others booty.


LOL!

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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2004, 03:25:43 PM »
lol...

Only a select few players on each team in American football ever touch the ball in any given game.  Your accusation of the real football involving just running is hilarious.
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2004, 03:32:27 PM »
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lol...

Only a select few players on each team in American football ever touch the ball in any given game.  Your accusation of the real football involving just running is hilarious.


Lol, that avatar kind of looks like a soccer uniform, complete with purse:lol
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« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2004, 03:44:38 PM »
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Kind of makes the draft useless if the players pick their teams instead of vice versa.


That's a valid point.  I guess the way the NFL sees it is, the draft is set up to give each team the rights to that player.  The player is under no obligation to play for that team, but if he doesn't then he can't play for the NFL at all.  

I look at Bo Jackson and John Elway's situations.  Bo elected to avoid playing for the Buccaneers by playing baseball instead. Elway forced a trade.

I can think of worse teams to play for than the Chargers.  Arizona Cardinals comes to mind.  Detroit Lions is another.  Bengals and Browns, too.

At this point, San Diego would be foolish to draft Eli, unless they threaten a trade to any of the above-mentioned teams.