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Offline Flyboy

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why should anyone use a torp?
« on: April 25, 2004, 03:15:40 AM »
1 of the good things about festerMA is the fleets

i find myself fighting alot of navy battles and trying to sink Cvs which bring me to the point.
what advantage does the torpedo have vrs regular bombing?
its very hard to hit with it, you have to go LOW SLOW and CLOSE. and it doesnt seem to do more dammage then regular bombs.

so why should anyone use it?


I know that in real life torpedos where extremely effetive vrs. ships. HA doesnt seem to moddel that
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Re: why should anyone use a torp?
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2004, 04:17:45 AM »
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I know that in real life torpedos where extremely effetive vrs. ships. HA doesnt seem to moddel that
I think it depends if they are used effectively - see this excellent article by zxs which goes into great detail about setting up torpedo runs....  http://www.virtualpilots.fi/en/feature/lento_ohjeet/ah_torpedoguide/  :)
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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2004, 07:17:03 AM »
wow that is brilliant. thanks alot :)

allthough it does not answer my question.
which is more effective, a 500Kg torpedo or a 500Kg bomb?
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2004, 08:03:26 AM »
IF it hits, a torpedo will do more damage then an equal size bomb simply due to the fact that it hits below the water line (and water creates a much stronger concussion then air).

I've read somewhere the torpedos weren't very effective in WWII and most of the ship sinking from the air, were done by dive bombers.
Sorry, can't find the source.

in midway, the only good thing torpedo planes achived was to keep the defenders busy and low while the ships were sunk by dive bombers:
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/events/wwii-pac/midway/mid-4.htm

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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2004, 09:43:28 AM »
How many cv's were sunk by airborne launched torpedoes in WW2? +)


Think it takes 3-4 torps to sink the CV in AH


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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2004, 09:51:36 AM »
British Navy lost I believe the Repulse (could be wrong on name) to a combination of torp & bombs.

IT was pretty much zigging & zagging, dodgeing bombs pretty well till a torp smacked it in the rear taking out 1 screw & locking the rudder full over.

With half speed gone & steaming in a predictable circle needless to say it didn't take long.

British Fairy Swordfish had torpedeos hit the Bismarck also. Again helping to bring about its destruction.

Hvy ships especially had armor plate up to 10 " thick down to the waterline, and on the decks. But a single torpedeo below the waterline could do some serious damage.
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2004, 10:33:53 AM »
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IF it hits, a torpedo will do more damage then an equal size bomb simply due to the fact that it hits below the water line (and water creates a much stronger concussion then air).

 


thats in real life, does it apply to AH?
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2004, 10:57:48 AM »
In AH the best way to take out a carrier is divebombing... torpedo's are pretty useless.  

Of course, the "best" way to divebomb is to dive a Lancaster into the CV deck.
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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2004, 10:59:58 AM »
Wow Flossy - thanks for the link to the article!  A very detailed write up!

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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2004, 11:30:39 AM »
Excellent opportunity to educate yourselves people....

http://www.vectorsite.net/avsword.html#m3

The Bismark was sunk in a combination of aerial torpedo attacks and a naval pursuit.

Another example is the Taranto attack, the Italians barely managed to project any power out at sea after that attack by Swordfish torpedo bombers at the dead of night in their harbour.

The American torpedos were the only ones that didn't work :)
Towards the end of the war a better model was introduced that wroked better.
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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2004, 12:21:39 PM »
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The American torpedos were the only ones that didn't work :)
Towards the end of the war a better model was introduced that wroked better.


Yeah, John Wayne fixed 'em ;) :D
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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2004, 12:46:49 PM »
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Wow Flossy - thanks for the link to the article!  A very detailed write up!
Thank zxs, it's his article!  :)  I just bookmarked it when a link was posted a few weeks ago.
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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2004, 07:07:35 AM »
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In AH the best way to take out a carrier is divebombing... torpedo's are pretty useless.  

Of course, the "best" way to divebomb is to dive a Lancaster into the CV deck.


HAHA Urchin:D
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« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2004, 07:44:44 AM »
Japanese perfected the Torp run really well.


They just didn't drop them off of the plane...  ;)
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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2004, 01:53:46 PM »
japanese torpedos where very effective.
They where oxygendriven and could be setup at 3 ranges.
and 3 speeds (type 93).

50,40 and 32 knots running 22000, 35000 and 44000 yards.
thanks to the oxygen u didn't see em coming.

At the early stage of war the allies didn't know about em and when the sea battle at the java sea was running the allies thought they dealt with submarines .

But i'm talking about ship torpedos now


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