$29.95 for a Beta Program?

[LJK Raubvogel]

 The fun factor more than makes up for any bugs, and I'm sure they'll be squashed quickly.

------------------
LJK_Raubvogel
LuftJägerKorps

[CptTrips]

He made a public post on a public bbs.  That opens himself up to any response gentle or otherwise.  

If he makes his stand in public he has to be man enough to realize some will agree and some will flame him.

If he has a delicate nature, he should have emailed his concerns to HTC privately.


Regards,
Wab

[jr]

Well I guess they could just stop making these dramatic game changes and just milk the old system until it dies. Would that be ok? I hope not but it would make life easier for the crew at HTC

[1776]

There are a lot more people happy with how HTC is approaching their sim, I repeat,THEIR SIM!!!  Constant whiners are a small noise, but like gnats are most of the time a nuisance!!  Today is a last straw for me to tolerate these small minded individuals.  I will no longer let their whining go unaddressed.  

Once again I state, if ya don't like it, don't buy it.  There is no gun to your head!!
You have no rights as this sim is not your creation.  If ya really want to make a difference then create your sim and see how many come!!!

jr, that is what is going on in WB and Aw right now and AW has fewer and fewer players!!

[This message has been edited by 1776 (edited 12-28-2000).]

[hblair]

 

Originally posted by 1776:
There are a lot more people happy with how HTC is approaching their sim

Put me in that column...

[blitz]

Hossa,

being here since early beta days + 1 fun faktor for me is to be part in a process.

Remember the times when we didn't have b26, or the b17 without guns, he,he.
Oh yeah, and how i missed the falling parts of dammaged planes & all these special effects  
Now we have a lot more things to play with than in beta days, don't we?
Hope HTC can keep up their speed in development for some time .
Stayin ? Sure  

blitz out

[hazed-]

i gotta say that before 1.05 i was getting real bored with the MA and i was questioning paying so much (yes $29.99 is a lot to me thnx) for a game i was enjoying less and less.
But then came 1.05 and my old enjoyment has returned! PT boats TBM torpedo strikes and 2 new fighters thrown in to boot  
As you all know I used to harp on about F4c's being out of place in MA but now in a pacific type arena they dont seem so bad.In fact the whole world seems suddenly a bit brighter lol
I would still appreciate a reduction in price as it would justify my expendature on AH even more for me ,after all its a form of entertainment just the same as any other game i can play online like counterstrike,halflife,SOF,MSFS,etc that entertain me for free after inital single payment for a game.
In effect each update must provide value for the amount of months you pay in between each version.If i took the $90 odd dollars ive payed to play 1.04 could i entertain myself as much? at the moment i think theres nothing i could get hours of this sort of challenge out of like AH so i pay $30 but when i hear others get it for $20 and even suggestions of some paying $10 I feel like im being conned.
I understand im agreeing to pay and ive got the choice whether to stay or go but that doesnt help much does it? Given the choice i want to pay the same as the lucky sod whos paying less.If you dont you gotta be crazy.
family/home bills come first for me ..i dont know about you guys.
As AH currently stands with this great new update Im happy to continue paying as its once again become a worthwhile entertainment.
after reading this: http://flightsim.thrustmaster.com/articles/read.php3?id=130  
i think they are planning what i hope for so lets just wait a little longer and enjoy new stuff


[This message has been edited by hazed- (edited 12-28-2000).]

[1776]

Haz, you need to ask the Queen for a tax reduction

[RAS]

Viper....the price thingy (issue) still chaps my britches a bit also.  Its like going into a grocery store, picking out your favorite loaf of bread, getting to the checkout stand only to find 3 people in front of you buying the same loaf for less.  When you question the store manager he simply states "well, its simply a matter of whether or not you think the price you are paying is worth what you are getting."  

Your reply might go something like this "Sir, I really like the bread (or at least I did until they put this new packaging on it) and would gladly pay your price, BUT, would you not think me a fool to ask you to come to my market and pay a higher price for the same product "select" others get for less ?? "

Not sure what the answer is to your dilema in this situation Viper.  Have found you to be a very staunch supporter of Aces and what they have been trying to accomplish to date. In fact, I would not be paying and playing this game/sim if not for you.  I cannot comment on 1.05 as I have NOT been able to get past the sign in screen to date.  Computer locks up and I have to shut it down with the power switch as everything is locked out.  I figure it is something with MY machine and NOT a change that came about with 1.05.  I WON'T figure that way if I hit my 10th "scandisk" session after reconfiguring my machine for the 10th time. I am hoping "to date" my inability to get into the game online has simply been a timing factor.  (i.e.-the server burping cuz EVERYONE is downloading the patches/updates, etc.).

But you certainly have my vote on "asking" for the folks at HiTech Creations to lower the price for "all"....and I do NOT think it is an unreasonable request.  

An interesting thought just occured to me, I wonder what the response would be if the folks who are paying 19.99 (or 19.95, don't know what it is for sure)were suddenly "required" to pay the 29.95 ?

RAS

[SC-GreyBeard]

RAS, DL the full install and install it over the top of the existing installation.
all your settings should, (they were for me) still be there, but check your keymaps..
Thats what it took for me to get it to run.

Intell 933, Asus CUSL2 MoBo, ProphetII GTS Pro, 256 meg 133 ram, SB Live Plat. 20gig ATA 100 HDD




------------------
GreyBeard, Squadron Leader
Commander, "B" Flight, Aces High
Senior Staff Council
"The Skeleton Crew"
"Fly with Honor"[/i]
"Keepin' the Faith"

[Westy]

"getting to the checkout stand only to find 3 people in front of you buying the same loaf for less.  When you question the store manager he simply states "well, its simply a matter of whether or not you think the price you are paying is worth what you are getting."

 Absolute roadkill. It's much more like twenty people standing in line to buy a $2 gallon of milk and the store manager comes over to one or two and says to one, you can have that gallon of milk for $1.50 if you fill out survey, and to the other that he can have it for $1.00 if he did likewise.

 I think my break from these boards starts now. I love flying AH online but the exaggerated  bulllovely whiney crap topics in these forumns is for the fediddleing birds.

  -Westy

[K-KEN]

I am not trying to degrade the topic or it's author, and many of you, that have an opinion here.
I used to like AOL version 2.5.  I still use an old version of WIN95, because I resist change and my PII 266Mhz MMX system still runs OK.  
I still get charged $22.00 a month for AOL, like it or not, and they do an auto update without my approval or input.  Having flown and dealt with all of the AOL issues in 1996 and 1997....and Air Warrior connectivity, it seems to me that this is the first real issue that we have faced in AH since I began in the open beta.  AOL has Version 6.0 out now, and the AIM is inop-I hear....guess it's still a Beta too.  
  In September of 1999 I downloaded the beta .033 version of AH.  Back then, it was under 9 MB.  This upgrade, 1.05, is that or greater.  It's like a re-birth of AH.  I'd like to see this played out and then have servers set up, like AW, for each arena, and then the load will be less significant, in time.  Of course, that will cost more $$.
   Salute to HTC for AH, and it's playability and your understanding to this point.  I shall continue to support and promote AH in the future.  Your customer support and sense of fair play is commendable.  Keep up the fine work.

K-KEN

 http://www.cutthroats.com/


 

[RAS]

Thanks for the idea Greybeard.  I was under the impression that reloading the game (re-installing it) would tube my current settings, etc.  Will give your idea a try.

Thanks again,
RAS

[fradim]

Honestly, I have always liked ah. But now I can say I **really** love it. This 1.05 is awesome! It's the first time I can say I am really impressed and I'd pay much more to play it.

[Grizzly]

Bugs? You call these bugs? Some of you don't know what real bugs are! As for whining, the indicator that you have gotten it right is when the number of pro and con whines are equal. When HTC, or any other mmp sim, stops getting whines they will know that they have lost their last customer.

grizzly