Why did France and Russia oppose efforts to topple Saddam

[Nilsen]

"pardon!"

[Sixpence]

Originally posted by JBA
I am cutting from a Subscriber site so a link won't work

How much? Is it worth the money? Newsweek or something?

[Krusher]

Originally posted by Gixer
"Why did France and Russia oppose efforts to topple Saddam"


Because rightly like the rest of the world they realised that it was a bad idea to do so with force.

Unfortunetly England with it's poodle PM didn't follow suit.


...-Gixer

If that gets you through the day so be it.  It sounds like a talking point but wtf, thats about what I expected.

[Krusher]

Originally posted by Boroda
Putin's Peace and Unity Party? Did I miss something?

Nikolay Ryzhkov? That's cool! He was fired in 1990, before the first Gulf War.

 

yes you did miss something.  Its naming four benificiaries of what looks to be bribes.  It didnt say they all work for the current goverment.

In Russia, the payoff chain reached right into the "office of the Russian president." President Vladimir Putin's Peace and Unity Party also got vouchers,

as did the Soviet-era Prime Minister Nikolai Ryzhkov

and the Russian Orthodox Church.

Nationalist leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky shared in the largesse.

[Krusher]

Originally posted by Sixpence
Considered by many to be a tabloid, not to say it isn't true. Btw, hijack time.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2004/04/28/wine_cigars_deer_head____charge_it_to_uncle_sam/

you are right, Dick Morris worked for Bill Clinton how credible can he be.

[Krusher]

Originally posted by Sixpence
Doesn't anyone just post a link anymore? This C&P seems like such a waste of space. Just C&P sections you want to point out. Let them read the rest.

like you would read it

[Krusher]

Originally posted by lada
yup..

i would add no. 3

Does corruption of someone else excuse laying of US ?

I guess we will agree on no, even if they were secret gays with SH, it doesnt excuse public lays by US administrations.


ohhh im sorry we shold call it missinforming of president

well we all need to get layed now and then

[Krusher]

Originally posted by Momus--
Krusher, if you're genuinely interested in why the US invaded Iraq and why France and Russia opposed it, please read this essay , which contains a good analysis and cites sources for it's assertions.

I am more interested in why the UN can be corrupt from the top down and still be considered credible.


Well I guess I am not too surprised by the reaction, it seems to fit the bill.  As long as they support a POV that suits the "America sucks" or the "Iraq was better under Sadam" crowd, the UN is a fine and dandy operation.

[Sixpence]

Originally posted by Krusher
like you would read it

Lol, I have a better chance of reading that than a C&P:aok

[Momus--]

Originally posted by Krusher
I am more interested in why the UN can be corrupt from the top down and still be considered credible.

All organisations are corruptible, if you think the US government is any less corrupt than the UN then I'd say that's pretty naive. I'd also take it from your apparent refusal to consider the evidence I put before you that you're not really interested in the truth, but rather in promoting an agenda that rationalises your own country's actions.

Feel free to carry on in your state of self delusion and denial.

[Sixpence]

Originally posted by Momus--
All organisations are corruptible, if you think the US government is any less corrupt than the UN then I'd say that's pretty naive. I'd also take it from your apparent refusal to consider the evidence I put before you that you're not really interested in the truth, but rather in promoting an agenda that rationalises your own country's actions.

Well, one could debate Mr. Clark's motive's, but there does seem to be truth to OPEC's switch to the euro http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040112.wopec0112/BNStory/Business and no, it does not get much press here, it is controlled by the liberals, and even liberals want a strong greenback.

[Steve]

Because rightly like the rest of the world they realised that it was a bad idea to do so with force.

Yes, we should have asked Hussein nicely to stop dealings w/ terrorists and to stop the murdering of his own people.  With as much attention as he paid the all those U.N. sanctions, I'm sure this would have had a really good chance of success.

[Steve]

I'd also take it from your apparent refusal to consider the evidence I put before you that you're not really interested in the truth

LOL you put forth an analysis/theory as "evidence"

Watch out whacko, are those black helicoptors over your house???!!!

[lada]

Originally posted by Sixpence
even liberals want a strong greenback.

if you want strong and stable currency, $$ is not they only once option.

Euro is much more stable that $$. And it will be much more used in futhure due to less agressive international strategy of Eu.
(yah yah yah feel free to call us terrorist lovers)

Dolar is loosing his prime. All around world.
As Billy G. loosing govermenatal costumers

[Momus--]

Originally posted by Steve
LOL you put forth an analysis/theory as "evidence"

Watch out whacko, are those black helicoptors over your house???!!!

An analysis with a lot of supporting evidence (all referenced BTW), which you plainly haven't read, or doubtless you'd be able to address specific points instead of making dumb "black helicopter" references. But reading and digesting would require some thought, which clearly isn't your forté, is it?