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Offline Thrawn

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« on: April 29, 2004, 02:19:59 AM »
I posted this elsewhere I thought you guys might find it interesting.








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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2004, 04:49:52 AM »
Don't get it. I don't see the resemblance except that they both have that same nasty shade of baby blue?

Horizontal stripes are always a good idea in a flag though, IMO.

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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2004, 05:06:36 AM »
Why not just add another star to the american flag and let them use that :p

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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2004, 05:16:54 AM »
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Why not just add another star to the american flag and let them use that :p
ROFL Nilsen! You are so bad. :lol

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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2004, 05:37:19 AM »
Afghanistan

Egypt

Iran

Iraq (OLD)

Israel

Jordan

Kuwait
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2004, 05:38:15 AM »
Lebanon

Libya

Oman

Palestinian Authority

Qatar
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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2004, 05:38:43 AM »
Why a new flag ? The old one was used since the 50ties - long before Saddam.

And why blue ????   The arab flags never had used that stupid baby blue before.

No wonder that german TV show yesterday how iraqis were burning this new flag on the street.

They would have better used the red / white / black and just replace the central symbol with a new one.

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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2004, 05:38:52 AM »
Saudi Arabia

Syria

Sudan

Yemen

UAE


Yup light blue'll really blend in with the neighbours. No one will be at all suspicious about the meaning of the change in colour. Arabs are big on light blue. And it's great that a non-elected government chose it. Honest. :D
Why didn't they just make it a red rag and wave it at the bull?

Here's some reaction to it on the BBC .
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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2004, 06:32:47 AM »
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Why not just add another star to the american flag and let them use that :p

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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2004, 06:38:16 AM »
Yup Nilsen, right on the mark! ;)
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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2004, 06:45:27 AM »
Designing and attempting to impose a new flag has to be the most crass piece of diplomacy for many along year.................


............just amazing how idiotic some  people can be.
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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2004, 06:56:13 AM »
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Why not just add another star to the american flag and let them use that :p


if we don't count Puerto Rico, think we want to count Iraq? :)

does seem alittle abrasive - wonder how much they spent to come up with that idea??
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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2004, 07:00:20 AM »
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Why a new flag ? The old one was used since the 50ties - long before Saddam.

And why blue ????   The arab flags never had used that stupid baby blue before.

No wonder that german TV show yesterday how iraqis were burning this new flag on the street.

They would have better used the red / white / black and just replace the central symbol with a new one.


Babek, can you please re-post your explaination of the colours and symbols from WBFH Forum here?

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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2004, 07:20:04 AM »
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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2004, 07:20:23 AM »
@boroda: Sure - here we go :)


This new flag is maybe nice for a Alladdin-Hollywood-Film but it has no meaning for the iraquis or Arabs.

Arabs used the following colors in their flags:
RED:
The Khawarij were the first Islamic group to emerge after the assassination of Caliph Uthman III, forming the first republican party in the early days of Islam. Their symbol was the red flag. Arab tribes who participated in the conquest of North Africa and Andalusia carried the red flag, which became the symbol of the Islamic rulers of Andalusia (756-1355).
In modern times, red symbolizes the Ashrafs [ie. Sharifians] of the Hijaz and the Hashemites, descendants of the Prophet.

GREEN:
The Fatimid Dynasty (909-1171), North Africa
The Fatimid Dynasty was founded in Morocco by Abdullah Al-Mahdi, and went on rule all of North Africa. They took green as their color, to symbolize their allegiance to Ali, the Prophet's cousin, who was once wrapped in a green coverlet in place of the Prophet in order to thwart an assassination attempt.

WHITE:
The Umayyad Dynasty (661-750), Damascus
The Umayyads ruled for ninety years, taking white as their symbolic color as a reminder of the Prophet's first battle at Badr, and to distinguish themselves from the Abbasids, by using white, rather than black, as their color of mourning. Mu'awia Ibn Abi Sufian (661-750), founder of the Umayyad state, proclaimed himself Caliph of Jerusalem.

BLACK
BlThe Prophet Mohammad (570-632)
In the seventh century, with the rise of Islam and subsequent liberation of Mecca, two flags - one white, one black - were carried. On the white flag was written, "There is no god but God (Allah) and Mohammad is the Prophet of God."
In pre-Islamic times, the black flag was a sign of revenge. It was the color of the headdress worn when leading troops into battle. Both black and white flags were placed in the mosque during Friday prayers.
The Abbasid Dynasty (750-1258), ruling from Baghdad, took black as a symbol of mourning for the assassination of relatives of the Prophet and in remembrance of the Battle of Karbala.


Look at the the old iraqi flags:

The Kingdom of Iraq had the colours green, black, red and white



Then 1953 Egypt gave birth to the "Arab Liberation Flag" - 3-stripes-horizontally: Red - White - Black with green 5-pointed stars or a golden hawk in the center.
The following countries changed to this flag design to symbolize their union:
Syri , Iraq , Yemen, Libya (later changed flag to green to symbolize Ghaddafis so called "green revolution") and Egypt.

So Iraq had this flag until the end of Saddam:
red-white-black with 3 green 5 pointed stars in the center.

Thats NOT Saddams flag - it was the iraqi flag before Saddam who only added the words "God is great" in the center of the flag

So - Iraq - with its relativly short history always had the described colours and design.

And now they get this dumb flag design which look more like the israeli design with 2 blue stripes and a blue religious symbol (islamic-half-moon / 6-pointed-jew-star) in the center.

Yes - officially the 2 blue stripes should symbolize the 2 rivers (thank god Iraq has only 2 big rivers - otherwise the design would be worser than it is) and teh yellow or brown stripe at the bottom should symbolize the kurd minority.

But whats with the turkish minority ? Or the sunnite minority ? Why not putting some other funny stripes in the designs ?

And I can understand that the iraqis are angry about this flag design and are burning this "symbol of the puppet regime" (how they said yesterday in te TV report).

The Iraqi flag should be a red - white - black design with a new symbol in the center - but not this baby-blue ridiculous Disneyland-version.

I would feel the same anger if the iranian flag would loose the traditional green - white - red design it had during all its history.