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Offline 10Bears

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« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2004, 08:18:56 PM »
Not to mention the 87 billion was for Iraq reconstruction... The troops were already funded.


Grun two can play at this game.. What kind of people would insist on a rich boy tax cut when our troops don’t have proper equipment?.

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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2004, 09:13:29 PM »
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A true chickenhawk is a guy who votes to send our soldiers into battle and then votes against the funding neccesary to keep them paid and protected on the battlefield because it's politically inconvenient for him at the time....


ah the unmistakable smell of bull****!

I can see that you watch the Bush* ads - but dont you realize that Bush* sent them there without the armor plate and the flak jackets?  And now he is trying to blame it on Kerry.  

I wonder why Bush* would do this rather than talk about his record?  I mean he has had 4 years as president with republican controlled congress.

I guess it gives Grun something to spout about.

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« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2004, 09:14:31 PM »
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Just wondering...

As he had no military experience, was born to wealth and led a nation into battle, was FDR a chickenhawk?

He seems to fit the NH Gazette's definition.


FDR had war thrust upon him, he did not go looking for it a la VIetnam and Iraq. - unless you believe the TFH theories about Pearl.

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« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2004, 09:19:52 PM »
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we'll take that as a yes then?


I served... how about you?
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« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2004, 09:21:26 PM »
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Not to mention the 87 billion was for Iraq reconstruction... The troops were already funded.


Grun two can play at this game.. What kind of people would insist on a rich boy tax cut when our troops don’t have proper equipment?.


Rich boy tax cut????????

Hell, I saved many thousands of dollars this year, and I am far from being rich.

Stop parroting the DNC line and come up with something more original...
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« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2004, 09:24:06 PM »
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Not to mention the 87 billion was for Iraq reconstruction... The troops were already funded.



Bullchit. Most of the money, some 60 billion, was for the military deployment...  

Keep your Kerry lies in check, ok?

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« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2004, 09:24:43 PM »
I'm just baffled at all the sabre-rattling at the same time the government is doing this.
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« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2004, 09:25:45 PM »
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Rich boy tax cut????????

Hell, I saved many thousands of dollars this year, and I am far from being rich.

Stop parroting the DNC line and come up with something more original...


Are you on welfare? Did you vote Democratic last election?

If you answered NO to either of those questions then you are a wealthly leech on American society and you need to give back your tax cut money...

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« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2004, 09:39:37 PM »
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Are you on welfare? Did you vote Democratic last election?

If you answered NO to either of those questions then you are a wealthly leech on American society and you need to give back your tax cut money...


The rich got rich in the US because this is the greatest country in the world.  The rich are rich because there was opportunity in the US for them to do so.  It is their patriotic duty to give back to the country that has given so much to them.

I do not mind paying taxes.  I do not want to pay more than I owe but when I figure out what I owe I pay it and I don't cheat.  Whenever I see F-18s overhead I see my tax dollars at work.

If the rich arent going to carry the tax burden who is?  THe poor?  Everyone pays their share and that increases as your income increases because the people at the bottom need a higher percentage of their income to survive.  

Its amazing to me how simple progressive ideas that have been around for ages seem so radical to some who would gladly  adopt the agenda of the rich and powerful.  I have said it before but I didnt make it up - if you arent rich then voting for republicans is like chickens voting for colonel sanders.  They arent going to do anything but pluck your bellybutton and fry you up for dinner.

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« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2004, 09:49:18 PM »
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I can see that you watch the Bush* ads - but dont you realize that Bush* sent them there without the armor plate and the flak jackets?  And now he is trying to blame it on Kerry.  

I wonder why Bush* would do this rather than talk about his record?  I mean he has had 4 years as president with republican controlled congress.

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Actually it was Kerry who brought up that Bush was not funding the troops, yet he is the one who voted not to do it. Kerry had years and years to help fund the military, but he didn't. He is a hypocrite and was called on it after HE brought it up.

As a matter of fact, I don't recall Bush ever saying a negative thing about Kerry or any democrat, yet all we hear from Kerry is insults and rhetoric against Bush..... as if that's all Kerry is running on.

I wonder why Kerry from day one has mentioned the "republican attack machine" and yet I never have seen it.

When ABC grilled Kerry about throwing his medals away, he lashed out at Bush! He said he was being attacked by the republicans.....even though actually it was the media asking him the question.

Kerry has more than a few screws lose and is a HUGE hypocrite with little sense of morality. The guy is the kind of person I would never in a million years believe could be sincere even if he was being sincere....he's so all over the place.

He tells us "being responisible about the environment is a lifestyle, not something you practice once a year on earty day" yet maintains 5 mansions, a private jet, yatch, and god knows what else. He consumes more resources than probably 1000 typical Americans combined, yet has the balls to tell people to be responsible about the evironment.

Bush in a landslide.

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« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2004, 10:14:00 PM »
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Actually it was Kerry who brought up that Bush was not funding the troops, yet he is the one who voted not to do it. Kerry had years and years to help fund the military, but he didn't. He is a hypocrite and was called on it after HE brought it up.

As a matter of fact, I don't recall Bush ever saying a negative thing about Kerry or any democrat, yet all we hear from Kerry is insults and rhetoric against Bush..... as if that's all Kerry is running on.

I wonder why Kerry from day one has mentioned the "republican attack machine" and yet I never have seen it.

When ABC grilled Kerry about throwing his medals away, he lashed out at Bush! He said he was being attacked by the republicans.....even though actually it was the media asking him the question.

Kerry has more than a few screws lose and is a HUGE hypocrite with little sense of morality. The guy is the kind of person I would never in a million years believe could be sincere even if he was being sincere....he's so all over the place.

He tells us "being responisible about the environment is a lifestyle, not something you practice once a year on earty day" yet maintains 5 mansions, a private jet, yatch, and god knows what else. He consumes more resources than probably 1000 typical Americans combined, yet has the balls to tell people to be responsible about the evironment.

Bush in a landslide.


You've never seen the Republican Attack Machine?  You ARE the Repug attack machine!!  

Im suprised that you have read up on Kerry's environmental positions.  Tell us more about Kerry's positions on the environment -   Id love to hear your thoughts on this.  

I think what you have been reading is the latest RW talking points which, in reflection of the freaking terrible record of Bush* seek to tear down Kerry as it is their only hope of winning the election.

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« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2004, 10:15:07 PM »
As long as we're reducing Kerry's voting decisions down to absurd simplicities...

If you were given the choice to keep your tax rebate or donate it to pay for the body armour, which would you choose?

If you choose the body armour, why wouldn't Bush?

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« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2004, 10:18:51 PM »
I don't understand what you're saying Nash. What do you mean by saying "reducing Kerry's voting record" ?

Kerry said Bush sent the troops to war without proper equipment, yet it was Kerry that voted to not fund the 87 billion for the troops equipment.

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« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2004, 10:21:20 PM »
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You've never seen the Republican Attack Machine?  You ARE the Repug attack machine!!  

Im suprised that you have read up on Kerry's environmental positions.  Tell us more about Kerry's positions on the environment -   Id love to hear your thoughts on this.  

I think what you have been reading is the latest RW talking points which, in reflection of the freaking terrible record of Bush* seek to tear down Kerry as it is their only hope of winning the election.


I have been reading and listening to Kerry as a matter of fact. The quote I listed is from Kerry. The ABC interview I saw myself......they grilled Kerry and he responded by attacking Bush.

I don't attack anyone by the way.

Tell me when Bush has said anything negative about any democrat.

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« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2004, 10:21:53 PM »
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I don't understand what you're saying Nash. What do you mean by saying "reducing Kerry's voting record" ?


If it helps any, just focus on the actual question. ;)