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Offline Airhead

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« Reply #45 on: April 30, 2004, 11:53:18 AM »
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Originally posted by Yeager
Who were the iraqi victims?  Plain old run-o-the-mill draftees or were they IDd as people who had commited atrocities against other Iraqis or us military?  again, not trying to excuse, just want the full scope of the story before being european.


Why, that makes all the difference now, doesn't it? If they were arrested for "autrocities" then they DESERVE to be tortured and humiliated, by God!!

Sorry, but I agree wuith the right wingers on this one- there's a war on and if we can't win their hearts and minds then we'll take their rectums.
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« Reply #46 on: April 30, 2004, 12:05:44 PM »
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Originally posted by Udie
That won't matter to the America haters.  They will eat this up :(  I think the people in this video will find themselves living in Kansas real quick like.  

 Criminals are really ***'n stupid.  Think about it,  if you're about to break the Geneva convention would you take pictures?  Would you want any evidence?  Idiots......


Udie is right, from what I have heard in that Al-jazeera and the Islamic press are not reporting that the perps were arrested and charged.  THat was this morning so it may have changed by now, but there is no doubt this is a PR nightmare.

USMC pulled out of Falluja today too - I wonder if there is any connection.  Was there a negotiated peace or something else going on?
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« Reply #47 on: April 30, 2004, 12:15:15 PM »
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Originally posted by Drunky
Strk,

Why is it that the only things you post about are negative?

Do you have any good feeling about anything that happens in this country?

Or is it just because Gore is not in power?

Your continued negative campaign against everything is quite amazingly, perplexing.  Kinda like typing 'Bush*' everytime you mention the President.  I really hope you haven't been doing that for almost four years now...that would seem a little obsessive.


Drunky

Why do you always have some problem with me and not what I post?  Did I even make this a political question?  Hs Bush* been blamed for this event?  The answer is no.  You see my post and you think it is something it isnt.  You pre-judge everything.  Its called prejudice.  

My continued negativity perplexes you - did 8 years of Clinton hate perplex you too?  I think this Resident sucks bellybutton and I want him out.  That is my right to say and think that.  If you have a problem you are welcome to say otherwise.  Free country you know.

The last time you jumpd my **** you wanted "discussion" - but all you do is attack me.  Typical RW tactic - you have no issues in your favor so you resort to ad hominem attacks.  Lame.

So put your flame thrower away and say what you have to say and if you have nothing to say then come back when you do.
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« Reply #48 on: April 30, 2004, 12:15:31 PM »
Seems like a few have lowerd themselves down to the level of the enemy!
there is NO excuse for this kind of crap.
Ft Levenworth should have some new guest over this.
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« Reply #49 on: April 30, 2004, 12:18:32 PM »
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Honestly I was inclined to say the same thing.  If I were in their shoes and Shatinmyfries was a prisoner I'd spend all day playing evil American.

1.)  Ive read nothing of ANY phsyical abuse.
2.)  The photo where the guy is standing on a box with wired tired to his hands and a hood over his head... the wires arent connected to anything... he just doesnt know.
3.)  How else are you supposed to wartm people up for interrogation?

And last but not least...

4.)  Frat boys have done worse... Send the camera to the Sig Pi house!  VIOLATION!!!  VIOLATION!!!

PS:  If physical abuse did take place, Im sure the offending soldiers will be prosecuted.


man you just revealed volumes about yourself.
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« Reply #50 on: April 30, 2004, 12:18:36 PM »
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Originally posted by Yeager
, just want the full scope of the story before being european.



Pfffffttt...

:rofl

God the whole world hates us...

I guess it should bother me....but for some reason...
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« Reply #51 on: April 30, 2004, 12:22:19 PM »
To those of you out there who think this (prisoner abuse) is a singularly American problem, think again.
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« Reply #52 on: April 30, 2004, 12:28:06 PM »
Oh no, Saur...he called you gay!!

Oh my god, I think you should meet him in the parking lot after school!

:rolleyes:
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« Reply #53 on: April 30, 2004, 12:28:51 PM »
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Originally posted by Sixpence
You don't understand, "freedom fighters" (mercenaries) are committing most of these crimes, and our military has no jurisdiction over them.


I guess Iraq has jurisdiction and will try them then - and they have some harsh punishments I hear.
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« Reply #54 on: April 30, 2004, 12:30:26 PM »
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Originally posted by stratman
Seems like a few have lowerd themselves down to the level of the enemy!
there is NO excuse for this kind of crap.
Ft Levenworth should have some new guest over this.


Like I said, most of these abuses are being committed by "freedom fighters" (mercenaries), and the military has no jurisdiction over them.
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« Reply #55 on: April 30, 2004, 12:33:42 PM »
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Like I said, most of these abuses are being committed by "freedom fighters" (mercenaries), and the military has no jurisdiction over them.


I hope your right sixpence .
I would really hate to think that our military would be doing such things.
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« Reply #56 on: April 30, 2004, 12:38:49 PM »
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Originally posted by strk
I guess Iraq has jurisdiction and will try them then - and they have some harsh punishments I hear.


ROFL!!!

Think again.
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« Reply #57 on: April 30, 2004, 12:41:51 PM »
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I hope your right sixpence .
I would really hate to think that our military would be doing such things.


Well, the sad part is that even though our military may not have done it, our tax dollars are paying for it. What we do is let the mercenaries handle the interrogations, so any crimes committed we are not responsible for, so in theory, it should work, but as you can see it is making our military look bad. And our military cannot give them orders or tell them what to do, so their hands are tied. So higher ups in government give the orders and take no blame, it gets directed at our soldiers. Sound familiar?
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« Reply #58 on: April 30, 2004, 12:43:22 PM »
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ROFL!!!

Think again.


I think that is the point he is trying to make. If the Iraqi police try to arrest them, the Iraqi police will be labeled as terrorists and the mercenaries as freedom fighters.
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« Reply #59 on: April 30, 2004, 12:47:43 PM »
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Well, the sad part is that even though our military may not have done it, our tax dollars are paying for it. What we do is let the mercenaries handle the interrogations, so any crimes committed we are not responsible for, so in theory, it should work, but as you can see it is making our military look bad. And our military cannot give them orders or tell them what to do, so their hands are tied. So higher ups in government give the orders and take no blame, it gets directed at our soldiers. Sound familiar?



Yeah sound very much like it has been planned this way.

Makes it hard to point the finger antwhere but at the the little guy
while the fat cats in washington keep there little hands clean.
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