Author Topic: This is truly sad... (Read 1239 times)

Bodhi · « **on:** May 01, 2004, 09:58:26 AM »

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/04/30/iraq.brit.prisoner.abuse/index.html

Ya know, I have to agree with what others said in an earlier thread. This behavior needs to be punished and punished severly. Whether it's US, Brits, or any other troops, this behavior has no place in our armies.

Airhead · « **Reply #1 on:** May 01, 2004, 10:06:58 AM »

It's no secret the military is made up of right wing nutburgers. Is anyone really suprised the Right has resorted to torture?

_Schadenfreude_ · « **Reply #2 on:** May 01, 2004, 10:09:19 AM »

Have to disagree with you there Airhead, here the army are pretty pissed off and disgusted bywhat happend.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3676389.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3675723.stm

straffo · « **Reply #3 on:** May 01, 2004, 10:13:22 AM »

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Originally posted by Airhead
It's no secret the military is made up of right wing nutburgers. Is anyone really suprised the Right has resorted to torture?

Pretty false Airhead ,usually right wing nutburgers spend their time not in the army but in more dangerous places like a BBS for example.

wklink · « **Reply #4 on:** May 01, 2004, 10:15:09 AM »

Airhead not only is that statement patently wrong it is blatently stupid and insulting to everyone that puts on a uniform, myself included.

You might be suprised at the number of liberals in the military. Even those that are to the right of center believe in the principle of law and also believe in the principle of the Geneva convention. Quite a few of us have been discussing this (we are all Captain and above discussing this, we aren't just some private in the motor pool) and to a man we all said that this is unacceptable and that heads should roll.

When we raise our right hand we take an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States and to obey the lawful orders of our superiors. If (remember, these guys haven't been convicted of anything, where is your defendents rights now?) the soldiers in question did violate the Geneva convention they will be prosecuted. At the least they will lose their careers. I suspect they will be sent to Levenworth for more than a couple of years.

Just remember, this Army of 'Right Wing Nuts' has had the power to overthrow this government for the last 150 years and never has even remotely entertained the idea. We hold the rule of law and the rule of our leaders so important that we are willing to give our lives to preserve it, not to overturn it.

You disgust me.

Bodhi · « **Reply #5 on:** May 01, 2004, 10:21:49 AM »

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Originally posted by Airhead
It's no secret the military is made up of right wing nutburgers. Is anyone really suprised the Right has resorted to torture?

Airhead, just go away, this is the crap that is ruining this board.

Airhead · « **Reply #6 on:** May 01, 2004, 10:47:31 AM »

Why the double standard? Those of us who have posted opposition to the Iraq occupation are bombarded by being called left wing, anti American Communist terrorist lovers who hate America, interspread with JPEGs of some drugged out hippie who is portrayed as what "we" are.... where every issue quickly deteroriates into a slam fest on the Democrats.... where name calling and taunting by people like Bodhi, Grunherz, VOR and the same core group of right wingers resembles noon time recess at an elementary school rather than a bulletin board discussion...

Why is it so acceptable to stereotype one side of the political spectrum in a negative light, but it's forbidden to stereotype the OTHER side of the political spectrum in a negative light?

Obviously this was an isolated incident committed by a few rogue criminals, so relax...but from now on, anyone makes a generalized comment questioning my patriotism, military service or honor I will react in kind.

Some of you might want to think about what you post before you post it. Your right wing rants and name calling are getting tired.

NUKE · « **Reply #7 on:** May 01, 2004, 10:56:24 AM »

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Originally posted by Airhead
Why the double standard? Those of us who have posted opposition to the Iraq occupation are bombarded by being called left wing, anti American Communist terrorist lovers who hate America, interspread with JPEGs of some drugged out hippie who is portrayed as what "we" are.... where every issue quickly deteroriates into a slam fest on the Democrats.... where name calling and taunting by people like Bodhi, Grunherz, VOR and the same core group of right wingers resembles noon time recess at an elementary school rather than a bulletin board discussion...

Why is it so acceptable to stereotype one side of the political spectrum in a negative light, but it's forbidden to stereotype the OTHER side of the political spectrum in a negative light?

Obviously this was an isolated incident committed by a few rogue criminals, so relax...but from now on, anyone makes a generalized comment questioning my patriotism, military service or honor I will react in kind.

Some of you might want to think about what you post before you post it. Your right wing rants and name calling are getting tired.

Airhead you are too intelligent to fall into the "right wing/left wing" trap.

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #8 on:** May 01, 2004, 11:08:09 AM »

Big problem Airhead. You did not stereotype the left or the right. You insulted the very people who put their lives on the line so you have the right to speak your mind. Even if you make a complete and total prettythang of yourself. Big difference. If you are too stupid to see and understand the difference, you are indeed beneath contempt, and not worthy of further replies.

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #9 on:** May 01, 2004, 11:09:20 AM »

Some people might want to think before they post Airhead? Yes, you should try it sometime, you may find it enlightening.

wklink · « **Reply #10 on:** May 01, 2004, 11:13:49 AM »

You know what, any idiot can make broad generalized statements like you did. It doesn't take a keen intellect to say 'Well all xxxx are a bunch of right wing (or left wing if the poster is a rightwinger) blah blah blah. Heck, my six year old can do that.

You call your flippant response to a legitimate board posting the result of people picking on you? Go call your mother. Go call Jenny Jones. Next up, 'guys who don't like being called names respond by stupid flip lines. '

If you believe what you believe then you should be able to defend yourself against those that insult you by your actions. If someone calls me a blah blah I ignore them as the idiot they are. They don't exist to me. You seem to take this crap personally so you go out of your way to make stupid statements that insult people for no apparent reason. I

f there is one country that bends over backwards to maintain the Geneva Convention it is the United States. Those people have already been releived of their jobs and are awaiting probably prison time, if they are guilty. How do I know this? It has been jammed into my head at least 10 times over my 19 year military career. People are human, people do stupid things and war inhumanized people on both sides and that is why these rules are in place, to prevent widespread torture chambers and mass graves, something pretty common in Iraq just a year and a half ago.

You know, I don't post stuff here unless I know some facts behind it. I don't come here to make stupid flame troll posts. Any idiot can do that.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #11 on:** May 01, 2004, 11:20:37 AM »

everyone who makes generalized statements are a**h**es.....

no... wait...

seriously, this is the first time I remember anyone calling General Wesley Clarke a right wing nutburger...

Yeager · « **Reply #12 on:** May 01, 2004, 11:23:54 AM »

dont sweat airhead. he is just trying to be a dick for the fun of it.
Lots of dorks like that running amok on the net these days.

Airhead · « **Reply #13 on:** May 01, 2004, 11:24:07 AM »

Sheeesh NUKE, I didn't even know I was a "leftist" til I heard it here. I didn't know I hated America til I heard it here. I didn't know I supported America's enemies til I heard it here.

I consider that insulting, and speaking of which I apologize to wklink and every other military, past and present, for using them to make a point. It was disrespectful and out of bounds, I was wrong and apologize for my insult.

Bodhi, I really have nothing to say to you, other than I think it is your name calling and hateful attitude towards those who disagree with you that diminishes this Board, not the crap I post. You should be the one to just go away.

Leslie · « **Reply #14 on:** May 01, 2004, 11:39:36 AM »

I think I'm losing my mind.

Les