Author Topic: N1K whine! (Read 3984 times)

Citabria · « **Reply #45 on:** May 02, 2004, 10:08:28 AM »

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Originally posted by cars
citabria

Maybe the rumors of your cheating have to do with some of the unethical things you've done like switching countrys and using your rank to contol the cv's to the detriment of said country. People remember things like that and it gets talked about. Some consider that a form of cheating, maybe they feel those type of actions show an inclination to do other underhanded things.
Just sayin, you reap what you sow.

cars

I would think that such blatent things would be evidence to the contrary. it would make clear I have no intent of hiding my actions and while some do such carrier sinkings stealthily I get in their faces and piss everyone hiding the carrier off. And I don't do this anymore for the reasons you said, but I have sunk many hidden carriers in the past. It is indeed an underhanded method to counter a cowardly underhanded tactic. and I appologize for doing this.

the Irony of it I realized is the hidden carriers actually rally the country without them to attack the country hiding them without any need for sidechanging tactics.

Mathman · « **Reply #46 on:** May 02, 2004, 10:30:18 AM »

Festabria, shut up, you lousy 2-weeker!

Citabria · « **Reply #47 on:** May 02, 2004, 10:32:34 AM »

shutting up sir

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #48 on:** May 02, 2004, 12:12:26 PM »

Jeez, you can't hit anything past 700?

I'm lucky if I hit something at 300.

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #49 on:** May 02, 2004, 07:39:05 PM »

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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
I've witnessed yancya13 do several incredible things which made me strongly suspect of a hack.

Flip-of-an-eye turns followed by a big blam (not single hits) after which plane usually explodes.

Coincidence?

factor in lag and pilot skill and you'll figure out why Bulz got shot down.

ack-ack

cars · « **Reply #50 on:** May 02, 2004, 09:30:45 PM »

cit,

I didn't mean to imply that I think you cheat. I've flown with you and against you for quite a while now and you're one of the last I would ever suspect of cheating. If you gave up a carrier that was being hidden, . I think hiding a carrier is also an unethical thing to do. I'm talking about taking control of a carrier that was being used for an assault and redirecting it to another course. Thats the only one I can personally say I saw. Now when you switch countrys, the first thing that comes to mind is, whats he gonna mess with? To you and many others I'm sure thats not cheating, and technically it isn't or it wouldn't be possible, there would be a delay to prevent that built into the game. It's just that IMHO, the personal value system that allows that kind of action isn't that far removed, so possibly others feel that way as well. But...... its just a game so none of it really matters to me. I was just tryin to give you a possible reason that the rumors of cheating may follow you.

Taki and crew don't need to cheat, they're some of the best in the game and its always frustrating/fun to fight them, just don't plan on winning, they use the dreaded "fly smart" technique.

cars

Citabria · « **Reply #51 on:** May 02, 2004, 09:35:21 PM »

cars I don't take over CV's being used for an attack unless I have a better offensive tactical use for them which in my opinion if i am ranked higher than the current cv captain I have no problem taking it over and using it in a way I find more effective. thats the privlege of having a higher rank and thats ethical and legal thing to do.

everything bad you have heard about me and hijacking carriers is based on people hiding carriers. not on people using them offensively.

you might notice on festerma and ozkansas hiding carriers dosnt happen very often. there is a reason for this and it was a deliberate setup that is quite subtle and very confusing to a would be carrier hider.

Overlag · « **Reply #52 on:** May 02, 2004, 09:38:45 PM »

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Originally posted by Citabria
cars I don't take over CV's being used for an attack unless I have a better offensive tactical use for them which in my opinion if i am ranked higher than the current cv captain I have no problem taking it over and using it in a way I find more effective. thats the privlege of having a higher rank and thats ethical and legal thing to do.

everything bad you have heard about me and hijacking carriers is based on people hiding carriers. not on people using them offensively.

you might notice on festerma and ozkansas hiding carriers dosnt happen very often. there is a reason for this and it was a deliberate setup that is quite subtle and very confusing to a would be carrier hider.

well said, but when you change country to get a rook cv back it is a bit lame...

anyway i hate this CV hiding business........

Citabria · « **Reply #53 on:** May 02, 2004, 09:43:12 PM »

so do I

thats why I thought hard on how to make cv's hard to hide.

and I figured out a good simple way and it works well on festerma and ozkansas.

all I did was scramble the cv numbers for all countries so they dont match any port or any country.

no one knows which CV to hide most of the time, I numbered them and even i cant remember which one goes where hehe.

so it clearly is very effective.

cars · « **Reply #54 on:** May 03, 2004, 04:23:14 AM »

cit,

I'm sorry you seem to be missing what I said. By personal knowledge, I mean I know of at least one time that you SWITCHED SIDES and took control of a carrier that was being used, and diverted it so it couldn't be used to attack the country you SWITCHED FROM. This isn't something I heard about, I was one of the people using the cv when you did it. I don't mind someone of higher rank taking control, I couldn't care less where a cv goes. Anyway, I'm not gonna debate it with ya. The people that were on that cv group know what you did and it was lame, not cheating, but lame.....showing questionable character that MAY not be all that different from the mindset of a cheater. I don't give a rats bellybutton what you do, its your business, you wondered why people think you may cheat. I just tried to clarify it for you.

BTW thanks for all the time and effort you put into the game making maps. Yours are some of the most fun.

cars

lada · « **Reply #55 on:** May 03, 2004, 06:27:01 AM »

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Originally posted by Overlag
well said, but when you change country to get a rook cv back it is a bit lame...

Thats proper patriotism

Overlag · « **Reply #56 on:** May 03, 2004, 06:43:33 AM »

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Originally posted by Citabria
so do I

thats why I thought hard on how to make cv's hard to hide.

and I figured out a good simple way and it works well on festerma and ozkansas.

all I did was scramble the cv numbers for all countries so they dont match any port or any country.

no one knows which CV to hide most of the time, I numbered them and even i cant remember which one goes where hehe.

so it clearly is very effective.

yup, thanks for that

jaxxo · « **Reply #57 on:** May 03, 2004, 12:06:39 PM »

Why is there no middle ground that this issue can come to?Obviously there is a problem. Just because one person has never experienced a problem with certain players doesnt mean another hasnt. Network charcteristics vary dramatically in different locations. I will agree that alot of guys use exuses for there crappy flying, but there are some real problems. Shane said that targets aften appear 100-200k from where they actually are. I agree completely, and coupled with good stick, can be major advantage. Just part of the game I know but when someone voices a concern why is he always called a "whiner" and "sore loser"?

hogenbor · « **Reply #58 on:** May 03, 2004, 12:38:41 PM »

Well, let's put it like this:

The N1K2 can do amazing things that cannot be done by let's say my favourite P-51B. If this is realistic I don't know, I'm not a pilot nor a historian nor an aeronautical engineer.

I suck in the N1K2 'cause I don't have the SA for dogfighting and I don't wanna die. This makes me pretty envious when I see people who can fight in it and land kills.

I am a shameless cherry picker and after 1.5 years of flying pretty reasonable while still being far removed from the real aces. This also means I'm an alt monkey. Furthermore I live in Europe so my K/H sucks BIGTIME.

The N1K2 is easy to fly, has firepower and ammo to spare. Lots of kills are the result, much more than you will get when you fly the P-51B like I do. I don't mind that, it's the playing style I choose. If I furball with my average skills I still get more kills in the N1K2 than in the P-51B.

So far so good.

However an example: I take off and climb to 17K. Takes a while. Fly to nearest NME airfield. Get two kills, glide back and land due to radiator damage. Take off again, do the same. get a kill and an assist, then collide with a D9 and die. During the same timespan I see one of the mentioned Japanese pilots land a 13 and a 8 sortie kill in a N1K2!!! To be frank, he must have been EXTREMELY lucky or UNBELIEVABLY good to achieve such a thing. I never encountered even an opportunity to do that, not even in a fully loaded A8, P-47, N1K2, C-Hog, whatever and the juiciest vulch ever.

I do not pass judgement, I only express my disbelief and considerable annoyance.

Adogg · « **Reply #59 on:** May 03, 2004, 12:53:04 PM »

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Originally posted by Citabria
its getting really old seing old players say this bullsht

are you trying to compensate for your lack of flying skill with adept character assasinations?

I thing you meant "inept".

I'll pistol whip the next one of ya who says the word cheat! Or at the very least get very very angly when you shoot me down.

I've been hosed from 1.4k out before. As the french say:

"Le *****, she happens."