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Offline beet1e

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« Reply #60 on: May 03, 2004, 03:14:33 PM »
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You were prolly less than 500 on his FE. It wasn't a Super Nikky, he got lucky. If you got hit just as you jinked, he shot you when you were flying fat happy and straight on his FE.
I was in battle with Taki's Tyrants the other week. Many of their kills came from situations like the one described in the initial whine in this thread. A N1K would come at me as if to HO, and then as I avoided it by going underneath, he'd flip over and shoot me from 800 yards. And no, it was not 500 yards on his FE. I gave a "WTG on the 800 yard laser shot!", and the guy replied "it was 861 yards on my FE!". It might even have been Yancya13 himself, busa01 or one of those guys.

Bottom line is that realistic gunnery (100-200yds) would probably cause the rate of new AH subscriptions to drop off. :p

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« Reply #61 on: May 03, 2004, 03:27:19 PM »
I usually fly early am Sat and Sun (West Coast time) and occasionally stumble into the niki boys.   This past Sunday was one of those times.  First was on the furball island.   Knight niki’s coming towards the rook vh.   Got killed several times and left the area trying to decide which excuse I was going to use for getting chased from the island.  

Went down to a rook cv that was adjacent to a Knight field, nice green bar on dar, no red bar.   Rooks had set up a vulch, seemed like a good place to re-inflate my ego.

Well, me and the rest of the rooks lost control of the situation and the fight went out over the water.   Then them dang niki’s start upping.   There us rooks were, in hogs, cats, and spits, low slow, trying verticals, and doing conga lines.    There the niki’s were, low, faster, doing the verticals, and them stinking barrel rolls they love.   They were also working as a team.    Twice I saw a niki break off a certain kill to help another niki.  Rook planes were popping and dropping.    Niki’s with multi kills landed.    

If the enemy (and me) are going to put things on a platter for them like that, I’m surprised they are limited to two digit kill sorties.

Just another version of the niki story.

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« Reply #62 on: May 03, 2004, 03:45:50 PM »
I think HT should give them a ki84.

more uber speed less uber ammo supply and guns
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« Reply #63 on: May 03, 2004, 04:03:44 PM »
n1ks and there rice paper armour are easy to kill...and ive seen less "impossible" shots from a n1k than i have from anything with hispanos...heck during the first year or so of play (when i was flying the hurri2c a lot) i got most kills with about 14 rounds from a average distance of d600 from my perspective...

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« Reply #64 on: May 04, 2004, 01:40:24 PM »
While flying mornings I generally run into the N1k club.

All are good pilots.....they get me, I get them.  Never saw

anything I would call suspicious.  Busa, Yancya13, and Taki etc.

been around a long time.....employ very good ACM and work

very well together.  They tax your ACM....if it's poor you're going

to the Tower.....simple.
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« Reply #65 on: May 04, 2004, 02:16:24 PM »
Saw Taki land many multiple kill sorties last night in a CHog.

Granted its a cannon plane like the N1K, but thats where the similarities end with those 2 planes.

Multiples ... like 8, 9, 7, etc. The man knows how to fly ... its not the machine.
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« Reply #66 on: May 04, 2004, 02:22:42 PM »
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Multiples ... like 8, 9, 7, etc. The man knows how to fly ... its not the machine.
I've landed numerous 8 kill sorties in a Chog - most was 13. Does that mean I know how to fly, or was it the plane?

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« Reply #67 on: May 04, 2004, 02:25:38 PM »
it means you know how to vulch/cherry a capped base in one is all.
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« Reply #68 on: May 04, 2004, 02:29:00 PM »
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it means you know how to vulch/cherry a capped base in one is all.
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« Reply #69 on: May 04, 2004, 02:34:00 PM »
it applies to Taki, too...  :D

he's good with wingies and also has a fairly good clue about acm in general, tho' - no slouch and not afraid to mix it up, unlike some we could name. :aok
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« Reply #70 on: May 04, 2004, 02:38:43 PM »
Flying Niks, winging together is ubber easy no matter which way you dice it... Sure the plane is only a 1/4 of the equation. (and I am not knocking Taki and Co's flying, they are a good bunch of guys)

Can you imagine the uproar if the NIK was perked... Even if many of these NIk sticks had 1000's of perks... It be mayham... Many ticked off individuals. Why the NIK is perked and not the Chog I do not know and still ask that very question to this very day... HiTech, seems to think it should be perked (the chog) so if he thinks so... Well... What else needs to be said on that...? Or could be said for that matter...? I disagree with his reasoning for what it is worth, but respect the fact that it is his game so I wont take it any further than that...



My point is if the CHOG is perk material the the NIK is as well...
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« Reply #71 on: May 04, 2004, 02:59:51 PM »
Its got 900 cannon rounds, its mobile and its one of the best turn fighters in the game.  Like morph said, keeping with what was done with the other planes, this one deserves at least a small perk.  Its fine to say la7 needs to be perked, but in a la7, you have HALF the cannon rounds as you do in a N1k.

As far as the thread starter losing his tempest, well I'm sorry man, but if you try and BnZ those Pacific Rim N1k drivers, you better get him.  I've had yancy13 barrell roll and pop right up on my 6, about d600 out after I lit him up in an f6f.  He was low and slow on the deck, thought it was an easy kill, he took some good hits, but he flipped that thing over and came right up behind me and hit me from a good distance away.  Best advice if you find yourself in that situation again is don't fly straight  =)  Good luck in the future though.

BTW Shane, I liked the .22 caliber reference  :lol

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« Reply #72 on: May 04, 2004, 03:19:22 PM »
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800+ yards?  Say half a mile, it sounds better....  it's silly when you get pings from up to 1200 yards, especially from .50s


Snipers in the military and sharp shooters who do this for a sport can hit a 1 foot square target with ease at over 1 mile. THATs fight sports fans... Carlos Hathcock, a marine sniper in the Viet Nam war modified an M60 machine gun so that he was able to fire only 1 round at a time. He mounted a 4 power unertl scope on the top of this monster.

From the top of a moutain he could EFFECTIVLY make 1 shot kills. Having 93 confirmed kills total for his military career. This was in no way all done with this modified 50cal machine gun. But many of those C/K's where taken with that M60... 1 Shot kills mind you. Dont underestemate the power of a 50 cal MG round. They are deadly accurate. They have a very flat trajectory in relation to cannons and more often than not a very high velocity compared to cannons.

Do a bit of research on todays new era of snipers in the military. It will BLOW your mind to find out what they are using and how effective it is. You will find a big trend with the 50cal sniper rifle.

What all that says is for a 50cal plane to land hits on you from 800+ yards out is no mirical. Its no big deal. Its the way it should be.
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« Reply #73 on: May 04, 2004, 03:23:32 PM »
"My point is if the CHOG is perk material the the NIK is as well..."

Chog's a lot more plane than the N1k.  But I also think that the CHog shouldn't be perked anyway, as low as the perkie is on it. What's the point?

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« Reply #74 on: May 04, 2004, 03:41:18 PM »
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"My point is if the CHOG is perk material the the NIK is as well..."
Chog's a lot more plane than the N1k.  But I also think that the CHog shouldn't be perked anyway, as low as the perkie is on it. What's the point?


it supposedly keeps the total noobs out of them and lessens (ha, ha) their ability to become JoustHoDweebs. or at least *dangerous* ones.

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