Author Topic: AH-64 Video Court Martials "Smoke Em" (Read 1802 times)

txmx · « **Reply #30 on:** May 08, 2004, 04:57:31 PM »

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Originally posted by hawker238

So what if American POW's were tortured in Vietnam? They shouldn't of 'tried their crap.'

You would be best adviced to shut up there sonny jim before the ghost of over 58k Americans come and haunt you.

Of all the ignorant things said on this board that has gotta be one at the top of the list.

stiehl · « **Reply #31 on:** May 08, 2004, 05:17:43 PM »

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Originally posted by txmx
You would be best adviced to shut up there sonny jim before the ghost of over 58k Americans come and haunt you.

Of all the ignorant things said on this board that has gotta be one at the top of the list.

Maybe you should bother to find out what he was replying to.

txmx · « **Reply #32 on:** May 08, 2004, 05:24:03 PM »

His satement speaks for it self.
Not to many ways to twist that one around It Is what It Is a slap in the face to anyone who served in S.E Asia or lost someone to that war.

Pooh21 · « **Reply #33 on:** May 08, 2004, 05:34:51 PM »

he says its ok to kill americans, but they cant kill them.

He says its ok to torture Americans but, you cant make gimp photos of them

hawker238 · « **Reply #34 on:** May 08, 2004, 06:21:18 PM »

Hahaha, you're saying I have double standards? I used the analogy to Vietnam to point out you think we can kill wounded and abuse prisoners, but when its done to our troops (as in Vietnam), its considered a travesty. I have nothing but respect for the men who served in Vietnam, but what makes them better than these men in Iraq? Opinion. What makes it acceptable to committ crimes against Iraqis? Poor moral judgment.

If the Geneva convention says its a war crime to kill an injured man, then so be it. That video showed a man flailing around on the ground, completely helpless, dazed, and (wait for it) wounded, and the order is made to kill him. He was not running for a weapon, or even crawling to a better fighting position. According to international law, this is a war crime, and it should be treated as such.

capt. apathy · « **Reply #35 on:** May 08, 2004, 06:53:24 PM »

double post

capt. apathy · « **Reply #36 on:** May 08, 2004, 06:54:52 PM »

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Originally posted by txmx
His satement speaks for it self.

yes it does, he apeared to me to be pointing out that when you look at things a from your point of view it's not a bad idea to look at it from the other side and see how that fits you.

I believe this was the post he was directly countering

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Sucks to be him then. Shouldnt have tried his crap in the first place then its war remember

see how that worked? he took the same situation, and the same attitude and just changed the name of the players. if it's wrong one way it's wrong the other. right is right and wrong is wrong no matter who is doing it.

WHATTHEHELL · « **Reply #37 on:** May 08, 2004, 10:09:21 PM »

Never understood this. SHooting a wounded man who could in theory shoot back at you is wrong. But shooting a man that is not wounded is ok??? What about shooting a dead guy? IS that a crime too? What about squirrels?

hawker238 · « **Reply #38 on:** May 08, 2004, 10:17:52 PM »

I assume shooting a corpse is mutilating the body, which would be criminal.

WHATTHEHELL · « **Reply #39 on:** May 08, 2004, 10:19:28 PM »

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Originally posted by hawker238
I assume shooting a corpse is mutilating the body, which would be criminal.

not if you are making sure he isn't going to shoot at you again.

hawker238 · « **Reply #40 on:** May 08, 2004, 10:27:39 PM »

hawker238 · « **Reply #41 on:** May 08, 2004, 10:57:24 PM »

Then why the court martial?

(not trying to sound antagonistic, just don't know much about the GC and such and would like to know)

Gunslinger · « **Reply #42 on:** May 08, 2004, 11:15:03 PM »

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Originally posted by hawker238
Then why the court martial?

(not trying to sound antagonistic, just don't know much about the GC and such and would like to know)

Probaly for the perverbial "wipe the hands clean" by the pentagon to distance itself from public pressure of people who dont know the ugly face of war.

rabbidrabbit · « **Reply #43 on:** May 08, 2004, 11:31:22 PM »

where does it say someone is getting courtmartialed?

They would be classified as enemy combatants I would imagine. They where not in uniform and therefore not protected as soldiers from what I hear/see.

Wolfala · « **Reply #44 on:** May 08, 2004, 11:45:08 PM »

Ok guys,

They truck fella's are splattered - we are at war, and to abuse the phrase - but ***** happens - and its not going to change a thing by second guessing if those guys had weapons or not. And frankly I don't care - because my friend was the CH-47 pilot blasted by an SA-7 last november. So if they had RPG or Strella's, to hell with them. Its war.

Wolf