Iraq is not part of the war on terror!

[StabbyTheIcePic]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
Complain complain complain.  That's all I've heard out of stabby.  Lets bash the administration and offer no solution.  Typical libral tactic.

I was against the war from the begining, that was my solution. It is to late to just pull out now. Is there a simple solution for the quagmire bush got us into. No. We will be losing men and women in iraq for the next 20 years or so. What i do know is that there is a serious lack of ground troops in that country. We forsaked our allies in nato thinking we could go in alone and take care of buisness. Well that was poor planning. How long before blair is out and those few british troops that are there pull out?

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by StabbyTheIcePic
I was against the war from the begining, that was my solution. It is to late to just pull out now. Is there a simple solution for the quagmire bush got us into. No. We will be losing men and women in iraq for the next 20 years or so. What i do know is that there is a serious lack of ground troops in that country. We forsaked our allies in nato thinking we could go in alone and take care of buisness. Well that was poor planning. How long before blair is out and those few british troops that are there pull out?

AGAIN Blaim BUSH but offer no solution???????

[StabbyTheIcePic]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
AGAIN Blaim BUSH but offer no solution???????

Do you offer a solution other then killemall? My solution, appologize to our allies for being dicks then bring in 200k more troops.

[Udie]

Originally posted by Mickey1992
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=11&u=/ap/20040511/ap_on_re_mi_ea/egypt_iraq_american_beheaded

And so the mass exodus of private contractors begins.

 I was actually thinking strongly about taking a job in Bagdad for Haliburton. They're hiring Autocad techs. I had my family behind me and everything.  Not now!

 And stabby,  just when did you get the idea that the war on terror was only a war on al queda?

[gofaster]

Updates with more information

Gruesome story.  What I can't figure out is why he would go to Iraq without a contract in place beforehand.  Maybe he underestimated the level of violence in that place.  26 years old - young enough to feel invincible, old enough to start planning for the future.

The video showed five men wearing headscarves and black ski masks, standing over a bound man in an orange jumpsuit — similar to a prisoner's uniform — who identified himself as Nick Berg, a U.S. contractor whose body was found on a highway overpass in Baghdad on Saturday.


"My name is Nick Berg, my father's name is Michael, my mother's name is Susan," the man said on the video. "I have a brother and sister, David and Sarah. I live in ... Philadelphia."


After reading a statement, the men were seen pulling the man to his side and putting a large knife to his neck. A scream sounded as the men cut his head off, shouting "Allahu Akbar!" — "God is great." They then held the head out before the camera.

Berg's mother, Suzanne Berg, said her son was in Iraq as an independent businessman to help rebuild communication antennas. He had been missing since April 9, she said.


"He had this idea that he could help rebuild the infrastructure," she said.

Berg, who was in Baghdad from late December to Feb. 1, returned to Iraq in March. He didn't find any work and planned again to return home on March 30, but his daily communications home stopped on March 24. He later told his parents he was jailed by Iraqi officials at a checkpoint in Mosul.

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On April 5, the Bergs filed suit in federal court in Philadelphia, contending that their son was being held illegally by the U.S. military. The next day Berg was released. He told his parents he hadn't been mistreated.

The Bergs last heard from their son April 9, when he said he would come home by way of Jordan, Turkey or Kuwait. But by then, hostilities in Iraq had escalated.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by StabbyTheIcePic
Do you offer a solution other then killemall? My solution, appologize to our allies for being dicks then bring in 200k more troops.

WOW an actual solution.....libral as it may be.....but an actual attempt at productivity.  Congrats you have leaped out of your libral shell just long enough for you to go back to saying America needs to appologize.

Well its a start but I seriously doubt US allies or the UN for that matter would do that much better of a job.  I think we should wait till the change over in june and elections after that.  It has still been a relativly short time since the invasion that I think its too soon to tell.

[StabbyTheIcePic]

Originally posted by Udie
I was actually thinking strongly about taking a job in Bagdad for Haliburton. They're hiring Autocad techs. I had my family behind me and everything.  Not now!

 And stabby,  just when did you get the idea that the war on terror was only a war on al queda?

Because terrorism is such a vauge word. It is easy to label a group. Now would you call the insurgants in iraq terrorists or partisans. I would say partisans.

If you have a family do not go to iraq.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by StabbyTheIcePic
Because terrorism is such a vauge word. It is easy to label a group. Now would you call the insurgants in iraq terrorists or partisans. I would say partisans.

If you have a family do not go to iraq.

If they are forigners that specifically entered Iraq for the chance to kill US troops are they still partisins or are they terrorits


Since when do partisins kill their own w/mass bombs during religious pilgramiges?

Sounds like terrorism to me

[Saurdaukar]

US media hasnt reported it yet - this is from the BBC.

They then pulled the man to the side and put a knife to his neck.  The man screamed as he was executed.  His killers shouted "Allah is great" before holding what appeared to be a head up to the camera.

US Contract Worker Executed

The parents of this kid have been on the local stations for a week - their son had been 'missing' for a month.

Perhaps the media would be quicker to report this 'abuse' if they had stripped him and took a picture instead.

Praise Allah.  

[StabbyTheIcePic]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
If they are forigners that specifically entered Iraq for the chance to kill US troops are they still partisins or are they terrorits


Since when do partisins kill their own w/mass bombs during religious pilgramiges?

Sounds like terrorism to me

British and US citizens helped the french during WW2. Their methods were far more civilized, but the end goal is and was the same, the defeat of the enemy. I am not makeing excuses for them, but i would not label them terrorists.

[gofaster]

Already posted.

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=116339

[Nilsen]

[Saurdaukar]

My bad.

[Nilsen]

nice bate tho saur.... just make sure you are first next time

[Saurdaukar]

Originally posted by StabbyTheIcePic
Now would you call the insurgants in iraq terrorists or partisans. I would say partisans.  

Why would you say that?