Author Topic: Red states are welfare queens? (Read 2356 times)

Mini D · « **Reply #75 on:** May 18, 2004, 08:32:01 PM »

TheDude is kappa. Dunno who strk is... just that he's been posting the same crap for a few months now (don't let the date on the handle fool ya).

strk · « **Reply #76 on:** May 18, 2004, 08:43:53 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Well, that's exactly the attitude I'd expect.

As long as we call it a tax, then we don't have to call it theft.

Let me ask you this....... if a guy earns it, who does it belong to?

You ever figure out why governments are not run on a "voluntary donation" program yet?

Personal? Nah. If I was making it personal, I'd call you the names the other guys call you. See the difference?

Kappa huh? Guys that have to hide behind shades

We the people, in order to form a more perfect union, establish just and ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty for ourselves and our posterity . . .

America - pay your taxes or go live in Mexico. If you want to pay taxes like you live in the third world then go live there. You want to run the military on voluntary donations? Who is going to pay for all the wars your boy king wants? here is a clue - the rich are going to laugh themselves all the way to europe where its safe, in your little neocon nightmare world that you want the US to become.

And you make it personal because that is the best you can do. Pathetic, really. Id love to see what some of these BB tards would actually say to my face.

And if you are saying that I am Kappa then I would say thank you but no cigar. As it happens, Kappa and I were in the same squad back in AW. I was around for about a year before him, and I remember he always wanted to practice duel. So I said sure, young pup, I will show you a few tricks.

he beat me five out of five

Kappa is an excellent stick and a fine american. He is about 5 times the man you are, Toad. So I appeciate the compliment.

capt. apathy · « **Reply #77 on:** May 18, 2004, 09:11:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad

Let me ask you this....... if a guy earns it, who does it belong to?

maybe a chunk should go to support the system that is working out so profitably for him. and maybe the better the system works for a person the higher his rate of support should be.

there are many different ways that people can set up their society. some are better for one type of person while others thrive in an environment that others would find intolerable.

is see nothing wrong with those that the system supports best giving a higher level of support to the system.

RedTop · « **Reply #78 on:** May 18, 2004, 09:11:17 PM »

I'm very confident that Toad needs no help here , but..

Strk..you really had no call to go at him like that..It was out of line..He didnt attack you the way you portrayed in that post. You were out of line , which I'm sad to say...Is not out of the norm here:(

strk · « **Reply #79 on:** May 18, 2004, 09:20:08 PM »

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Originally posted by RedTop
I'm very confident that Toad needs no help here , but..

Strk..you really had no call to go at him like that..It was out of line..He didnt attack you the way you portrayed in that post. You were out of line , which I'm sad to say...Is not out of the norm here:(

well, thanks for your opinion, but I disagree. Toad feels he needs to attack me personally. Fine. I was a lot kinder with him than he was with me. If he wants to discuss these issues then let him. Otherwise he gets what he asks for.

you notice he did not deny attacking me personally, just tried to excuse it by pointing out that others here would call me worse. I didnt see you rushing to my defense so I suspect that your concerns about fairness are contrived.

strk · « **Reply #80 on:** May 18, 2004, 09:23:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Mini D
TheDude is kappa. Dunno who strk is... just that he's been posting the same crap for a few months now (don't let the date on the handle fool ya).

horse-hockey. I am who I am and I have had this handle and no other since pay by the hour AW on AOHell.

you think you are so smart, but you are completely wrong. Even with the evidence right in front of your face, you choose to ignore it. lol

RedTop · « **Reply #81 on:** May 18, 2004, 09:25:56 PM »

Then we'll just agree to disagree. Didn't see that in the post...But I don't see things thru your eyes:)

StabbyTheIcePic · « **Reply #82 on:** May 18, 2004, 09:28:29 PM »

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Originally posted by Mini D
This is pretty shrecking hillarious.

I'd argue a simple point on the mistatement about someone not really caring if their taxes go up, but it's rather pointless. Afterall, it's just kappa and frogboy hiding behind shades accounts pretending to be cool and mature. Hell.. buy a pack of cigarettes guys... that will impress the chicks. It will save you from having to impress one of your typing hands.

MiniD

sorry estes... got the names backwards

More personal attacks by someone that has no idea what he is talking about. The intardnet is a wonderous thing.

strk · « **Reply #83 on:** May 18, 2004, 09:29:59 PM »

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Originally posted by StabbyTheIcePic
More personal attacks by someone that has no idea what he is talking about. The intardnet is a wonderous thing.

and they are so brave from behind their keyboards.

Tumor · « **Reply #84 on:** May 18, 2004, 09:36:52 PM »

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Originally posted by strk
IAnd I thought it was the dems who were bleading hearts for all those poor women and children you would be happy to starve.

Well if your too "lazy" (not disabled or otherwise ill-equipped) to go out and get yourself fed, why is it anyone elses RESPONSIBILITY to feed you? Notice I didn't say "Generosity" or the like. It's about responsibility. There's far too much "lazy" out there riding on my dime. Therefore I agree with your vision of Toad, sure... lett'em starve. I don't think Toads that shallow though. Nope, just don't.

StabbyTheIcePic · « **Reply #85 on:** May 18, 2004, 09:41:00 PM »

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Originally posted by strk
and they are so brave from behind their keyboards.

This thread needs more physical threats.

Mini D · « **Reply #86 on:** May 18, 2004, 09:50:11 PM »

So... stabbytheicepic, I'll leave this one up to you and watch you simply lie:

What was your previous ID on this BBS?

Hell... I'll leave it up to TheDudeDVant and strk too.

Come on, come clean guys. Quit sitting behind shades accounts and pretending to be clever and wity while failing miserably at both.

Till then, the discussion is pretty much dead now isn't it? You sit back and lie and provoke.... then point lookie at the reaction. It's getting pretty old.

MiniD

Mini D · « **Reply #87 on:** May 18, 2004, 09:55:58 PM »

Come on frogboy, spill it. Kappa? Care to comment?

Toad · « **Reply #88 on:** May 18, 2004, 10:13:40 PM »

Apathy, in 2000 the top 1% of taypayers, those earning $313,469 or more, paid 37.42% of all personal income tax paid.

Note this is $313,469 is a far cry from Strk's example of $30 million.

Anyway, with the top 1% coughing up 37%, just how much is going to take before you folks figure they are finally at "higher level of support to the system"?

Toad · « **Reply #89 on:** May 18, 2004, 10:25:59 PM »

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Originally posted by strk
you notice he did not deny attacking me personally, just tried to excuse it by pointing out that others here would call me worse.

Poor Strk.

Here, let me help.

If I had attacked you personally, which I did not, I would have called you names or impugned your intelligence or both.

For example: "What a forking moron! What a stupid son-of-a-witch."

See, those are personal attacks, cleaned up for the BBS.

And I did deny attacking you personally.

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Personal? Nah.

See that "Nah"? That's a negative. As in No, I didn't.

Also, I hope to be able to attend the con this year. If you're there, look me up. I'll tell you the same stuff to your face. And probably laugh in it too. Because your posing here on the BBS is laughable in the extreme; if you pose like that in person, I'd have to laugh then too.

What I did do is disagree with your entire premise and point out that you are eager to spend other people's money. Now, you may think that's a personal attack, but it isn't.

Lastly, I pay my taxes. Quite a lot of taxes as a matter of fact. Over the years, from the time I first worked until now I've been paying an ever higher percentage of what I made each year. I've learned, through personal example, that there is absolutely no end to the greed of other people when it comes to spending someone else's money. Oh, yeah.. it's always going to be "just this little bit more" and it's always for "a very good cause". But it never ends.

The reason it never ends? Because of people like you, chum. Because you have no compunctions about spending someone else's money, money YOU did nothing to earn.

You want to contribute more of your income to the nation? Feel free! Did you know you can give money to the Federal Government? Do it! Go for it! Spend YOUR money.

Oh.... wait........ I guess that isn't going to happen, is it?