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Offline Yeager

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« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2004, 12:36:16 AM »
I have developed the opinion these last few years that these indigenous peoples from the middle east value individual life at about $3000-5000 american dollars per life whereas peoples emmigrated from the middle east, especially current day europeans, north americans and the like seem to put the value of the average life in the high $millions per life.

Evolution doesnt not take a straight path thats for sure.
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« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2004, 12:39:32 AM »
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I have developed the opinion these last few years that these indigenous peoples from the middle east value individual life at about $3000-5000 american dollars per life whereas peoples emmigrated from the middle east, especially current day europeans, north americans and the like seem to put the value of the average life in the high $millions per life.

Evolution doesnt not take a straight path thats for sure.


Seems to me that yer doing the $/humans evaluating.

I've never heard anyone else put it into those terms. I've now heard you do it.

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« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2004, 12:47:51 AM »
***** happens and then you get a hellfire up your prettythang .  

Though I dunno it seems that they always have a  couple getting wed whenver a a strike like these happens, if it was indeed a wedding I don't think the pilots did it intentionally it was an eff up but then again no matter what it'll be seen as the US did intentionally :(

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« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2004, 01:26:44 AM »
Oh no...I dont dare to put a wage on anyones head.  Just seems life is real cheap in that part of the world.  Dirt cheap.
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« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2004, 01:27:18 AM »
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[B"... I don't think the pilots did it intentionally it was an eff up but then again no matter what it'll be seen as the US did intentionally :( [/B]


Of course.

I don't know what's with all the lamenting over how this is being perceived. It's war, sh! t happens and all that....

No, maybe I lie....

In Afghanistan a wedding party was also hit. It was on the news for maybe 5 minutes.

What's the difference here then? Seems to matter more....

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« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2004, 01:31:06 AM »
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Oh no...I dont dare to put a wage on anyones head.  Just seems life is real cheap in that part of the world.  Dirt cheap.


In a grand total of two sentences you claim to not assign value to anyone's life and then assign a value to life.

"Just seems life is real cheap in that part of the world"....

"Seems" by who? You maybe? What mag/paper did ya lift that gem off of?

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« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2004, 02:04:21 AM »
(sniffle)......I think I see a tear in my eye.........maybe not.

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« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2004, 03:20:56 AM »
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I hear rumors of war.......

I would offer condolances but that would just be self gratyfying and disengenuous.
so start a prayer thread instead. :rolleyes:

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« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2004, 04:04:21 AM »
this is all nuts! ok, youre at a wedding... there are better ways of showing your excitement than shooting a weapon.  ok, the pilots screwed up, the intel or JSTARS screwed up, the command and control screwed up..... and the iraqis screwed up. since i left iraq the situation heated up over there. there, as we all know, has been street to street fighting in some towns..... so why in the heck would you fire a weapon, at night, to celebrate? so before some you guys here start bashing the military about this matter think for a moment (from some of the replies that i read this may be difficult for some).. what would you do, what would be the first thing that goes through your head when you see tracers zinging by you....  :aok

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« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2004, 05:30:17 AM »
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so why in the heck would you fire a weapon, at night, to celebrate?


I'm sure you're aware how beautiful sight the flying tracers are in the dark sky.

Anyways looks like that incident is not fully examined yet so it's too early to draw conclusions.

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« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2004, 06:05:38 AM »
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I'm sure you're aware how beautiful sight the flying tracers are in the dark sky.

Anyways looks like that incident is not fully examined yet so it's too early to draw conclusions.


my point exactly.  everyone is quick to point fingers at the drop of a hat.  why dont we just blame the military for everything that happens for say...the next 10 years?? :rofl

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« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2004, 06:29:18 AM »
Or just blame the Danish nobody blames them for anything and we should start doing it now I say! :D

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« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2004, 06:54:19 AM »
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this is all nuts! ok, youre at a wedding... there are better ways of showing your excitement than shooting a weapon.



LOL and now they will teach Iraqi good habits

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« Reply #43 on: May 20, 2004, 08:57:05 AM »
To me the most likely situation was:

It was a wedding party.  Some or most of the people WERE insurgents and had brought thier kids along to join the festivities.  The army sees that there there is a large contigent of bads guys at a suspected safe house and also see that they are firing in the air.  Maybe at aircraft, maybe not (I cant belive those morons are firing in the air during these hostilities with thier kids around).  So the U.S. sees an oppurtunity to take out a large group of bad guys and takes it.

I don't know what happend but I think that this is most likely.

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« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2004, 08:59:42 AM »
Believe me, I wasn't suprised at who didn't participate.
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