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« Reply #45 on: May 20, 2004, 09:12:40 AM »
Indeed. It merely confirms what many of us have understood for a long time.
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« Reply #46 on: May 20, 2004, 09:14:32 AM »
this isn't the first time we fired upon ppl firing guns into the air - don't think it will be the last

if they fire ak47's into the air at a wedding, what do they do at the divorce?


somebody ship them a bunch of these ... QUICK!
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« Reply #47 on: May 20, 2004, 09:24:05 AM »
Give it a rest everyone....one of the chopper gunners were just trying to save a flock of rare birds that was under intense fire from the wedding guests. Other reports say that it was falling bullets from the wedding guests that caused it all

No need to hammer the amerikans for this one.


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« Reply #48 on: May 20, 2004, 09:24:52 AM »
I'm sure it will occur to you as well if you think on it.
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« Reply #49 on: May 20, 2004, 09:38:29 AM »
We both know the answer. We both know it's true. No point in starting a flamefest.

Ta.
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« Reply #50 on: May 20, 2004, 09:54:39 AM »
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To me the most likely situation was:

It was a wedding party.  Some or most of the people WERE insurgents and had brought thier kids along to join the festivities.  The army sees that there there is a large contigent of bads guys at a suspected safe house and also see that they are firing in the air.  Maybe at aircraft, maybe not (I cant belive those morons are firing in the air during these hostilities with thier kids around).  So the U.S. sees an oppurtunity to take out a large group of bad guys and takes it.

I don't know what happend but I think that this is most likely.


Doesnt surprise me one bit.  US soldiers in somalia reported on numerous occasions that Woman carrying and even surrounded by children would fire on US/UN troops.  Not saying that's the situation here but it wouldnt surprise me.
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« Reply #51 on: May 20, 2004, 07:31:07 PM »
All I have to say is HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl

Screw 'em all :D
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« Reply #52 on: May 20, 2004, 08:05:48 PM »
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« Reply #53 on: May 20, 2004, 09:29:07 PM »
To me it looks like they (US) were trying to keep out future terrorists at the border.  Wedding or not they probably came under fire.  One side or the other is lieing and I dont think its the US.  Just a gut feeling.  Again earlier quote....firing weapons in the air in a warzone is not a smart Idea.
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« Reply #54 on: May 21, 2004, 01:27:04 AM »
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All I have to say is HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl

Screw 'em all :D


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« Reply #55 on: May 21, 2004, 01:28:07 AM »
Ditto.  From the linked story above...

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“How many people go to the middle of the desert 10 miles from the Syrian border to hold a wedding 80 miles from the nearest civilization?” Maj. Gen. James Mattis, commander of the 1st Marine Division, told reporters in Fallujah. “These were more than two dozen military-age males. Let’s not be naive.”
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« Reply #56 on: May 21, 2004, 02:51:59 AM »
Probably the guy was having a slow day at the office and closest thing he had to shoot at all week. So he fired.

Seems all to often that we hear of more inocents being killed by US fire whether civilians or coalition forces. My cousin was in the first Gulf War with British forces and they got so tired of being shot at by US forces they resorted to tieing massive orange tarpolines to all their vehicles.

Didn't help the British forces from suffering more casulaties to US fire then they did to Iraqi.



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« Reply #57 on: May 21, 2004, 04:51:18 AM »
I find this amazing:

Asked about witness testimony and footage of children killed or wounded, Mattis said: “I have not seen the pictures but bad things happen in wars. I don’t have to apologize for the conduct of my men.”

Yes, bad things happen. But... Some things are just too much for me. Being at least polite is too difficult because of a fear to lose face?...

Another thought: when "bad things" happen in Chechnya they all start screaming about "evil Russians" and "human rights for Chechen terrorists". OTOH - when this miserable parody of an officer says he refuses even to apoligize - it's all right... What about human rights here? No human - no rights?...

:rolleyes:
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« Reply #58 on: May 21, 2004, 05:01:25 AM »
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I find this amazing:

Asked about witness testimony and footage of children killed or wounded, Mattis said: “I have not seen the pictures but bad things happen in wars. I don’t have to apologize for the conduct of my men.”

Yes, bad things happen. But... Some things are just too much for me. Being at least polite is too difficult because of a fear to lose face?...

Another thought: when "bad things" happen in Chechnya they all start screaming about "evil Russians" and "human rights for Chechen terrorists". OTOH - when this miserable parody of an officer says he refuses even to apoligize - it's all right... What about human rights here? No human - no rights?...

:rolleyes:


Except when bad things happend in Chechnya its a tiny little bit different...
 
Please note the dates, 2000 as in the year 2000 and not the year 1944....

BTW Boroda has often touted the precision of soviet artilerry and how its so m uch better than US smart weapons.

I'm guessing they precisely targeted every square inch of that city, a few times over by the looks of it....

So without futher delay, behold Russian humane warfighting policy!!!

Gronzy before - Dec 16, 1999:



Grozny after -  Mar 16, 2000:

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« Reply #59 on: May 21, 2004, 05:08:01 AM »
May i ask how old you are? Boroda and Grunhetz?....just curious
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