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« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2004, 06:06:45 PM »
A domestic brand vehicle retains only 36% of its original sticker after 3 years and imports retain 52%.

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« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2004, 06:13:02 PM »
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A domestic brand vehicle retains only 36% of its original sticker after 3 years and imports retain 52%.


Where do you get your facts?  Kiplinger's says that a new car loses 60% of it's value in the first four years.  They don't make a distinction for domestic and import.  I think the numbers you're quoting are a bit off.

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« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2004, 06:53:31 PM »
If its just a sports car you want...Buy a Vette !!!!!!!!:D
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« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2004, 08:15:01 PM »
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If its just a sports car you want...Buy a Vette !!!!!!!!:D
like porsche's better here.
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« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2004, 09:04:46 PM »
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I'm not knocking the 350Z/G35(aka Skyline) but  B. M. they've been haveing tons of gearbox issues, break squeeling, and abnormal tire ware, and feathering.

http://www.infinitihelp.com/Infiniti/Bulletins/G35/Year.htm


Had our a year only oil changes so far no troubles.

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« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2004, 09:11:43 PM »
Just a thought you might want to keep in mind.

If you  have a good credit rating

If your financing dont just negotiate the price of the car but the intrest rate as well.

Most people just go in and accept whatever interest rate the dealer offers not knowing they can negotiate it.
The key to this is a good credit rating.
And never accept their first three offers
Even if they try to say they cant do any better then that.
They are lying

If they argue just get up like you are going to walk out.
I promise they wont let you.
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« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2004, 09:48:14 PM »
I used to sell Fords.
You really want to blow there minds!

Tell them you want to see the invoice from the manf  you know the one with  the MSO
stapled to it.

Then offer em 8% over that LOL.

I used to show my customers the invoice
THE REAL one .
And I would ask them how much over that number would they be willing to pay and feel they got a good deal?

It was our store policy at the time all on the table up front and honest with people.
you would not believe how many repetes customers I got that way.

Used to sell 25-30 cars and trucks a month.

Of course had to work 11hrs a day 6 days a week to do it LOL.

Anyway If they wont show you the invoice head towards the door because they got something they are hiding.

If they didnt they would show it to you no problem.

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« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2004, 10:00:28 PM »
My company changed it's car program last year which brought a change in my usual company car, which was a Volvo.  So...I ventured out into the unknown to purchase a car with their money.  

I loved the appearance of the G35, so I test drove one.  It was a rocketship with so much torque steer, I was looking over my shoulder to check if I was going to cut someone off, when I punched it.  The car had a very stiff ride, but it goes with the car.
The Salesman gave me a good price to buy, and to lease was around $349.00 month.  I test drove a lot of cars, but the G35 kept coming back to the top of my list.  Then, I came to my senses, and asked myself why I wanted a car with 260hp.  I couldn't answer the question, other than maybe it was to obtain traffic violations to match the fun times of my youth.  Well, I talked myself right out of that car, and bought a Honda EX with leather.  Ok, the Honda is a great car, but it's not exciting.  So if you want the G35, step out and GET IT.  You can always trade it, and get a Honda later.  ;)

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« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2004, 09:50:42 AM »
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Where do you get your facts? Kiplinger's says that a new car loses 60% of it's value in the first four years. They don't make a distinction for domestic and import. I think the numbers you're quoting are a bit off.[/Q]

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« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2004, 10:17:46 AM »
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Tell them you want to see the invoice from the manf  you know the one with  the MSO stapled to it.

 


So how does that invoice number compare to the invoice number you get from KBB or Edmunds? I'm sure it's lower; how much lower?
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« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2004, 11:48:45 AM »
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Originally posted by txmx
I used to sell Fords.
You really want to blow there minds!

Tell them you want to see the invoice from the manf  you know the one with  the MSO
stapled to it.

Then offer em 8% over that LOL.

I used to show my customers the invoice
THE REAL one .
And I would ask them how much over that number would they be willing to pay and feel they got a good deal?

It was our store policy at the time all on the table up front and honest with people.
you would not believe how many repetes customers I got that way.

Used to sell 25-30 cars and trucks a month.

Of course had to work 11hrs a day 6 days a week to do it LOL.

Anyway If they wont show you the invoice head towards the door because they got something they are hiding.

If they didnt they would show it to you no problem.


This seems very reasonable.. Is there something I should use to ID Manuf. Invoice? (Its the same as Factory Invoice right?)

Really could make the whole process much easier. Did a test run on some numbers I pulled off of edmunds, and with 8% it was pricing about $400 of what others have paid, about  $1k less than sticker.

We'll see how things play out this week. Thanks again bud.

-BM

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« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2004, 12:19:42 PM »
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Originally posted by txmx
I used to sell Fords.
You really want to blow there minds!

Tell them you want to see the invoice from the manf  you know the one with  the MSO
stapled to it.

Then offer em 8% over that LOL.

I used to show my customers the invoice
THE REAL one .
And I would ask them how much over that number would they be willing to pay and feel they got a good deal?

It was our store policy at the time all on the table up front and honest with people.
you would not believe how many repetes customers I got that way.

Used to sell 25-30 cars and trucks a month.

Of course had to work 11hrs a day 6 days a week to do it LOL.

Anyway If they wont show you the invoice head towards the door because they got something they are hiding.

If they didnt they would show it to you no problem.




I used to sell Fords.
You really want to blow there minds!


 

Blow my mind, learn how to spell.

 
Tell them you want to see the invoice from the manf you know the one with the MSO
stapled to it.

 

An MSO is title to the vehicle, that's all.  No invoice reflects dealer incentives or holdback.

Then offer em 8% over that LOL.

 
LOL. LOL. LOL? Yeah, mrblack, they'd be laughing alright, 8% over on a $30,000 vehicle = $2,400 profit on a new car.  Add in holdback, incentives, etc and that's a fat deal on a new car.  Wait until they get you into finance and hand you your ass.

I used to show my customers the invoice
THE REAL one .
And I would ask them how much over that number would they be willing to pay and feel they got a good deal?


 And what the F did they say?  You're such a super salesman I think that for your two hours of time I'll give you $3,000 in profit?!  Customers have been conditioned not to believe anything car salesman say and certainly not to believe what they show them.  It's the only job I can think of where people think that they can use and abuse you're time, treat you like ****, and expect the world when they need a problem but don't think you're entitled to make a dime.  People are squealing retarded, they'll gladly pay a real estate agent 3.5% just to list their home and another 3.5% to sell it.  In the South that's an average of over $15,000 per house.  See anything on 60 Minutes about that?  What about mortgage companies and banks?  They'll act like paying you 2% on you're money is a great deal and then charge you $5,000 in fees and 6% for a mortgage.  Let a dealer try to make some rate in the finance office because dealer cost is all over the internet and it's a capital crime.  

It was our store policy at the time all on the table up front and honest with people.
you would not believe how many repetes customers I got that way.


 You're right, I don't believe you.  And there's the spelling thing again Einstein.  Tell a customer the absolute truth and give them all the information they need and they'll buy it from the next lot for $1 less once they run into a real salesman.  I'm guessing this might be why you are no longer selling cars.

Used to sell 25-30 cars and trucks a month.

 Bull****.  Why is it that everyone who used to sell 25 -30 cars a month is now doing something else?  What a load of horse****.  Even if you gave every car away by being the customer's friend and had a ****ty pay plan 25 - 30 cars would still pay over $10K with bonuses at most stores.  Plus any salesman doing those kind of numbers would be promoted to management to better use his closing skills. You just wack off on a flightsim BBS all day, and claim to be a truck driver. I did the math, your fulla shat.

Of course had to work 11hrs a day 6 days a week to do it LOL.

 How long exactly were you in the car business?  Ninety days?  Any salesman worth a **** works smart and is there when the store's busy and relaxing when it's dead.

Anyway If they wont show you the invoice head towards the door because they got something they are hiding.

If they didnt they would show it to you no problem.


Well, how will you know if it's the REAL invoice?  I don't know of any dealer that's going to let a salesman carry around the MSO (kind of like running around with a signed title).  What a clueless AH ****, ultra account fool. You could just go online there are several ways to find out the cost of a new car including holdback, incentives, etc. Of course what do I know, your the jack of all trades and many shades.

The Wobble at least had better stories.

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« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2004, 01:08:07 PM »
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Anyway If they wont show you the invoice head towards the door because they got something they are hiding.


Uh... we are talking about USED cars, they don't have invoices. That's whats great about used vehicles, a customer can't go onto the internet and see what I actually have in it.

With bonus, if you average 15 cars you'll gross about $6,000 a month and you were doing 25 to 30? Check your facts before you attempt to tell a story in here. And at 15 cars you'll be here bell to bell 6 days a week.

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« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2004, 01:21:47 PM »
Thank you Creamo, was about to make an bellybutton outta of myself at the dealership today if I had used his advice.

Just got a full report from comsumerreports.com says with dealer holdbacks etc. price is starting 29,974.

Funny story, returned one of the salesmans calls, I said hello, told him what I was looking for he quoted me a price over the phone, and from all that knows I'm a nice guy and would like to do business with me.......... haha funny.

-BM

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« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2004, 10:17:12 PM »
Just an update for those who care, and helped. Purchase today closed.

Black 6Speed
Willow (light) interior leather
Premium Package
With Rear spolier(Ricer!)
Nav system (Didn't want it but got it anyways)

Out the door, 35,800 - 700 for my old junker trade in, - $5,000 down, financed for 4 years at 3.58%.... Was a tough fight but I got what I was looking for.

Funny story though, got home and still had the keys of my trade in, in my pocket. Woops.. but those fckers forgot to service the engine, the coolants low (shoulda checked) I wonder what else is missing, we'll see in the morning.

Thanks again for the buying tips they really helped.

-BM