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Offline Mugzeee

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nVidia vs ATI / Screen freezing
« on: May 23, 2004, 06:29:20 PM »
It seems that there might be a trend towards the ATI cards being worse in AH2 beta 35, as far as Stuttering is concerned. I upgraded my Video card some time back and was under the impression that this vid card would do the trick.
At least according to the reported SYS specs that it was going to take to play AH2.
I am going to have to upgrade again. :rolleyes:
Please help me make an observation. Your help is Much needed here. And much appreciated. I have used nothing but ATI for the last 7 years. May have to go with nvidia for AH2 this time.
1. Your Vid Card is? ATI or G-Force?
2. Screen freezing/ Stuttering?
Thanks.
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Operating System: Windows XP Pro (5.1-,Build 2600)
CPU: AMD Athlon, MMX, 3D Now, ~ 1.0 GHz
SYS Mem: PC 2100, 256 Meg, DDR
Video: ST Labs ATI Radeon 9000LE, 128 Bit 128 DDR mem, 250MHz Engine Clock
Direct version, 9.0b 4.09.0000.0902
« Last Edit: May 23, 2004, 06:32:13 PM by Mugzeee »

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nVidia vs ATI / Screen freezing
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2004, 06:58:13 PM »
I have a 128MB ATI also. I've decided to sit tight for awhile for the following reasons:
1. The detective work to iron out these issues takes time and cannot be 'scheduled.'
2. I trust some compromise or fix will be found before release.
3. With my luck, any hardware I decide to change prior to release will be the only piece of hardware on the planet that will not work... :)

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Your Vid Card is? ATI or G-Force?
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2004, 07:29:51 PM »
MugZ , I have ran ATI in the past for many years also. I have found that in the last year that Nvidia cards just seem to work better for me . The card I'm using is a BFG Asylum GeForce FX 5700 Ultra 128 AGP .
Memory is 128 MB  ( DDR2 )
Memory Clock  900MHZ (effective )
RAMDAC Dual 400MHz
356 million vertices/sec.
14,46GB/Sec.memory bandwith .
 
I replace an ATI RADEON 9800 XT128 with this card !.
 
 My frame rates in AH1 and AH2 are the same , 100 sitting on the field and after take off and short climb the frame rates run between 100 to usally 110 . I have no frame freezes .
 One thing I did do was to set my soundblaster to "standard speed" acceleration .
 
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System Information
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Time of this report: 5/23/2004, 17:07:28
       Machine name: YOUR-6H1A8U6SJ2
   Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 1 (2600.xpsp2.030422-1633)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: eMachines, Inc.
       System Model: MS-6000T
               BIOS: Version 07.00T
          Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+,  MMX,  3DNow, ~2.0GHz
             Memory: 1024MB RAM
          Page File: 219MB used, 2243MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0b (4.09.0000.0902)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.0001.0902 32bit Unicode
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Display Devices
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        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 Ultra
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce FX 5700 Ultra
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0341&SUBSYS_194C270F&REV_A1
   Display Memory: 128.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (100Hz)
          Monitor: Korea Data Systems Avitron AV-195TF
  Monitor Max Res: 1920,1440
      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0010.5672 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 3/24/2004 10:04:00, 4274560 bytes
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 These BFG 5700 Ultra 128 cards are warrented for life, as are all BFG cards . There support is toll free 24/7 365 days . BeAware, MugZ 1 do not buy any cards with LE or some other funky cutrate versions , they fall flat on their bellybutton ! If you decide to lookup the link to BFG , call them and ask to speak to Tony , as him about the difference between the BFG 5700 Ultra 128 with ddr3 and the
5700 Ultra 256MB LE , you will find the card with 128 is way-faster because of the memory .

http://www.bfgtech.com/
 

 I think the only other thing I would do if I had a pc like yours is to install 1 GB of the fastest RAM  that will work with  your system . If you decide to upgrade cards ect. ect. besure to reinstall DX 9 .

 Any way it's been along time since we used to dogfight on AirWarrior .... My cpid was CHKRS and I was in Cucas Sqaud and later The SeaSerpents .

  I hope this helps .

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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2004, 02:43:43 AM »
I have an ATI Radeon 9700 with 128 MB & the latest drivers.

And, yea...my screen freezes a lot in AH2.  :(

This sucks.  Not looking forward to losing AH1 before this is fixed.

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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2004, 04:09:33 AM »
I think the problems lay in the programming favouring the nvidea cards.  Remember when AH2 first went beta those with ATI cards had lots of problems.  

I'm sure given time HTC will iron out all problems with using the ATI card.  I'm a 9800 user myself.
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HTC will iron out all problems.......
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2004, 05:41:16 AM »
I agree , there isn't any reason that ATI cards should be falling on there butts . I have seen this same type of issue in FighterAce , except it ws reversed, the ATI Radeon cards worked in that game with DX 9 and the Nivdia cards screwedup on DX9 . Had to run DX8.1 with Nivida cards to run that online game . FA still has that problem .

   These new ATI 800 XT cards are faster that stink, and should post the best of frame rates and effects ..... in AcesHigh ....


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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2004, 08:31:50 AM »
While I have had a few init errors after patching. On the whole my elcheapo ati 9000 pro 128 mb (8500 chip) has worked well in AH2.

Very well considering this system was built a year ago last feb and its only a 1.6 ghz.

Don't give up on ATI yet is my opinion.

Offline Mugzeee

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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2004, 08:47:48 AM »
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Originally posted by Ghosth
While I have had a few init errors after patching. On the whole my elcheapo ati 9000 pro 128 mb (8500 chip) has worked well in AH2.

Very well considering this system was built a year ago last feb and its only a 1.6 ghz.

Don't give up on ATI yet is my opinion.

Thanks. The 1.6 Gig may be giving you the extra boost needed too.
It has been said that AH2 is Processor dependent.
Any Screen stuttering at all?

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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2004, 09:03:25 AM »
Mugz

I have an Nvidia card.

I would say I only get screen freezes 10% of the time. It seems to happen when a friendly dies or once in a while in a furball. Basicly its there, (freezing) but its tolerable.
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Re: Your Vid Card is? ATI or G-Force?
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2004, 10:07:40 AM »
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Originally posted by AWCHKRS
MugZ , I have ran ATI in the past for many years also. I have found that in the last year that Nvidia cards just seem to work better for me . The card I'm using is a BFG Asylum GeForce FX 5700 Ultra 128 AGP .
Memory is 128 MB  ( DDR2 )
Memory Clock  900MHZ (effective )
RAMDAC Dual 400MHz
356 million vertices/sec.
14,46GB/Sec.memory bandwith .
 
I replace an ATI RADEON 9800 XT128 with this card !.
 
 My frame rates in AH1 and AH2 are the same , 100 sitting on the field and after take off and short climb the frame rates run between 100 to usally 110 . I have no frame freezes .
 One thing I did do was to set my soundblaster to "standard speed" acceleration .    

 These BFG 5700 Ultra 128 cards are warrented for life, as are all BFG cards . There support is toll free 24/7 365 days . BeAware, MugZ 1 do not buy any cards with LE or some other funky cutrate versions , they fall flat on their bellybutton ! If you decide to lookup the link to BFG , call them and ask to speak to Tony , as him about the difference between the BFG 5700 Ultra 128 with ddr3 and the
5700 Ultra 256MB LE , you will find the card with 128 is way-faster because of the memory .

http://www.bfgtech.com/
 

 I think the only other thing I would do if I had a pc like yours is to install 1 GB of the fastest RAM  that will work with  your system . If you decide to upgrade cards ect. ect. besure to reinstall DX 9 .

 Any way it's been along time since we used to dogfight on AirWarrior .... My cpid was CHKRS and I was in Cucas Sqaud and later The SeaSerpents .

  I hope this helps .

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Thanks for the reply Checkers.
I couldn’t forget one of the most respectable players ive met online. An attitude like yours is worthy of the utmost respect.
I cant ever remember you making an derogatory comment in all the time ive know you. Like 4 years or so.
Thanks for the input. Salute!
« Last Edit: May 24, 2004, 10:09:57 AM by Mugzeee »

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contact ????
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2004, 10:12:14 AM »
MugZ
 How can I contact you or get a phone number to talk to you ???

 CHECKERS or send me your phone number to  rlksh@hotmail.com

  asap !

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« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2004, 10:15:26 AM »
AMD XP 2K+
Asus board
512 Ram
Win2K Pro
NVidia GForce4 420MX (64 Megs)

No stuttering or any hesitations at all on the video, though my Saitek joystick is almost unuseable due to its sensitivity.  Smooth video even when in a 10,000 ft tail spin, though I'm still dizzy after how many I've had :-)

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Re: contact ????
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2004, 10:17:59 AM »
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MugZ
 How can I contact you or get a phone number to talk to you ???

 CHECKERS or send me your phone number to  rlksh@hotmail.com

  asap !
Send me yours if you like. I can talk anywhere in USA for same cost.

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cool i will send it now
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2004, 10:24:03 AM »
I have same phone service ...flat rate anywhere too

  ok phone number on way to yourYahoo email addy soon as i post this !

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Re: cool i will send it now
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2004, 10:24:48 AM »
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I have same phone service ...flat rate anywhere too

  ok phone number on way to yourYahoo email addy soon as i post this !

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heh cool  TY:aok