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Offline Saurdaukar

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Did you just watch President Bush's speech?
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2004, 07:56:27 PM »
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He said nothing related to a clear and concise exit strategy. Just the typical:
 -terrorist bad
-iraqi freedom
-terrorist bad
-some election stuff might happen


Um... he went through each aspect of the plan step by step.

Did you watch it, or did you form your opinion of the speach yesterday?

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« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2004, 07:58:00 PM »
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Um... he went through each aspect of the plan step by step.

Did you watch it, or did you form your opinion of the speach yesterday?


5 broad outlined points does not equal a clear and concise plan.

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« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2004, 08:01:50 PM »
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5 broad outlined points does not equal a clear and concise plan.



Actually, concise was exactly what it was.  If you want a more detailed explanation of US foriegn policy in Iraq without having to sit infront of your TV for 14 hours, write the White House - maybe Bush will whip something up on paper and autograph your copy?

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« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2004, 08:01:50 PM »
:D

StabbyTheIcePic =  Age 24 / Kerry VOTE

GScholz = Not from here / NO VOTE / NO SAY / No relevance

strk = Prolly to young / NO VOTE / NO SAY / and definatly irrelevant!!!!! (and even if he can it will be trumped by Bhodie's vote)


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« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2004, 08:02:44 PM »
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Originally posted by RedTop
:D

StabbyTheIcePic = Prolly to young / NO VOTE

GScholz = Not from here / NO VOTE / NO SAY / No relevance

Will edit as thread thread turns


 
 
 
 
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« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2004, 08:02:47 PM »
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*LOL!* Perhaps you should have listened to the UN in the first place.


perhaps the UN should have acted....

The US and coalition did act, and aside from some rediculous prisoner abuse allegations, the tragedy of dead servicemen and Iraqui civilians, and the final conclusive proof of the presence of WMD's, we for the first time see the possibility of a free Iraq.  An Iraq that is free from tyranny, free from terror, and free from oppression.  You can mock the US led efforts all you like, but it still does not change the precept that the actions in Iraq are leading to a safer world.  Why else would the terrorists fight so hard to stop us?? Because they are beginning to see the end, and like any cornered animal, they are fighting with all they have left... unfortunately what thye have left is suicide bombers, random roadside bombs, and oppressive militias.  There will come an end to these terrorists in Iraq, and then, Iraq can move on, and join the ranks of the free world.  

It's a pity that so many look past the noble acts of most of the servicemen and women in action over there.  They are the ones who are making a difference, and they are the ones whom the Iraqi's can thanks when they have a free country.

Bush has provided 5 steps to a free Iraq:

Handing over authority to a sovereign Iraqi government.

Establishing security.

Continuing to rebuild Iraq's infrastructure.

Encouraging more international support.

Moving toward a national election in Iraq that "will bring forward new leaders empowered by the Iraqi people."


How is that not a clear strategy?  I see it, but the naysayers do not, so unfortunately we are at the same impasse.  The only problem is, a free Iraq is happening no matter how badly you naysayers do not want that....  (which is sad, because the anti-american's overzealousness to see us fail is hurting the ones they should be worried about)
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« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2004, 08:03:28 PM »
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age 24


My generation is obviously ****ed.

Think of it this way, Stabster, Ill be cancling out your vote.

Sweet dreams.  :D

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« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2004, 08:05:51 PM »
Hmmm

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The first of these steps will occur next month, when our coalition will transfer full sovereignty to a government of Iraqi citizens who will prepare the way for national elections.


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The second step in the plan for Iraqi democracy is to help establish the stability and security that democracy requires.


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The third step in the plan for Iraqi democracy is to continue rebuilding that nation's infrastructure so that a free Iraq can quickly gain economic independence and a better quality of life.


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The fourth step in our plan is to enlist additional international support for Iraq's transition.


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The fifth, and most important step is free national elections, to be held no later than next January.


It's kinda thin... Call it "exit criteria" and we have a winner. :)
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« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2004, 08:06:25 PM »
Bohdi.....Librals will allways complain critisize whine bich whatever untill  they get what they want.

WHen you meet them half way or all the way its never good enough for them.

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« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2004, 08:06:36 PM »
I will be voting in a swing state. So actually your vote does not cancel out mine.

Oh there is this  

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United States (AFP) - Facing criticism that Iraq (news - web sites) is adrift in violence and scandal, President George W. Bush (news - web sites) will lay out what aides call a "clear strategy" for that country's future in a prime-time speech.




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The White House did not ask major US television networks to broadcast the speech, and Bush was not expected to detail the specifics of who will take power in Iraq on June 30.


How can you lay out a clear strategy without explaining who will take over?

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« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2004, 08:07:59 PM »
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« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2004, 08:08:13 PM »
err...Stabby.your 24?

Wow....Ill go with Saur's vote as well....Thats 2 to 1:p
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« Reply #27 on: May 24, 2004, 08:09:27 PM »
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Bohdi.....Librals will allways complain critisize whine bich whatever untill  they get what they want.

WHen you meet them half way or all the way its never good enough for them.


the so called liberals are always going to complain, the problem is, they have not seen the writing on the wall.  The world is becoming a better place because of our actions.  They only see the short term, but it's the long term that is what should concern them.  Unfortunately, their lack of vision, will cost countless American and foreign servicemen and women their lives in the future if the "libs" visions are followed.  Thats the true tragedy here.
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« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2004, 08:12:05 PM »
...and the so called conservatives think they're prophets.
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« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2004, 08:12:34 PM »
you two kill me with your liberal talk.  I suggest you go meet a few.

hey could you see Bush*s face all messed up from his bike wreck?