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Rumsfeld bans cameras in Irak-prisons.
« Reply #75 on: May 24, 2004, 06:52:37 PM »
imagine you or your kid(if you have one) gets picked up and thrown in jail.  while in there the guards rape you, beat you, humiliate you, and leave you living in constant fear of your life.

who would believe you, nobody saw it but fellow inmates and gaurds who are the attackers.  who exactly do you want to hear from?

inmates are reliable wittnesses if several stories match when interviewed seperately.  it's not as if they where given time to socialise and compair notes.  the interviews where carried out by a well respected US Army Maj. General, many of these conclusions where his, bassed on evidence and testimony

several people interviewed seperately give the same description of abuse.  when accused the guards admit abuse but say they where ordered to do it by inteligence officers, inteligence officers say they didn't know the gaurds where doing it.

nobody but you doesn't believe it happened?

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« Reply #76 on: May 24, 2004, 06:56:36 PM »
Yeah but did we get any good intell out of them?

I leave this discussion to you libs and bleeding hearts.
Because your whines are falling on deft ears here im afraid.

Because in my dark cold heart I could really give a rats Arse about Iraq and it's people.

All I care about is America and It's people .

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« Reply #77 on: May 24, 2004, 06:57:12 PM »
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Originally posted by txmx
Picture this.

PVT jones I can make life very easy If you just tell us what we want to hear.

Otherwise your butt is going away for a long time.
You think about that son.

Now If your 19--or 20 years old what would you do?

LOL I could dream up what ever I think they would want to hear hell I could write a paper that would get a pulitzer.


picture this, a US Army officer threatening an enlisted man for the purpose of discrediting the Army. :rolleyes:

this is a plausable scenario to you?   you are either trolling or out of your fluff'n mind.

either way I'm done with this one.  see ya.

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« Reply #78 on: May 24, 2004, 06:59:48 PM »
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
imagine you or your kid(if you have one) gets picked up and thrown in jail.  while in there the guards rape you, beat you, humiliate you, and leave you living in constant fear of your life.

who would believe you, nobody saw it but fellow inmates and gaurds who are the attackers.  who exactly do you want to hear from?

inmates are reliable wittnesses if several stories match when interviewed seperately.  it's not as if they where given time to socialise and compair notes.  the interviews where carried out by a well respected US Army Maj. General, many of these conclusions where his, bassed on evidence and testimony

several people interviewed seperately give the same description of abuse.  when accused the guards admit abuse but say they where ordered to do it by inteligence officers, inteligence officers say they didn't know the gaurds where doing it.

nobody but you doesn't believe it happened?


Mt if I showed you a picture of a prisoner getting the crap beat out of him covered in blood and that's it you'd think OH HOW AWFUL.  What I didnt show you was the officer he stabbed and the fellow inmate he caught on fire or the riot he was about to incite or how much he was resisting.

Camera photography is censored on military installations PERIOD.  There are allways numerous organizations inplace to investigate wrong doings LIKE WHAT HAPPEND HERE!  

Yes I beleive accountability is important BUT a picture taken out of context could infact cause Americans over there to be killed.  There's a very good reason and I agree with it.

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« Reply #79 on: May 24, 2004, 06:59:59 PM »
Picture this an US Army officer ordering soldiers to do these things in the first place.
Wow do you really believe this or are you out of your ****ing mind!

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« Reply #80 on: May 24, 2004, 07:07:41 PM »
I agree.  Cameras have no business whatsoever in military prisons.

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« Reply #81 on: May 24, 2004, 07:10:22 PM »
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I agree.  Cameras have no business whatsoever in military prisons.


even though they've allready been violated....isnt photography of prisoners against the geneva conventions?

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« Reply #82 on: May 24, 2004, 07:16:52 PM »
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even though they've allready been violated....isnt photography of prisoners against the geneva conventions?


Yes. You cannot show their faces.

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« Reply #83 on: May 26, 2004, 05:38:57 PM »
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Way to go!

Problem Solved!

:rolleyes:


wellllllll it turns out this quote was made up on a satire web site and then picked up by a french paper and spread around the world.

but you can believe it if suits you.