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Offline beet1e

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« on: May 26, 2004, 05:31:16 PM »
The yank-n-bank SpitV manoeuvre in which the Spit dodges your pass, then turns to realign with you and has p-l-e-n-t-y of time to line up a 680 yard shot. I have a classic example on film. I made two passes on the Spit, getting good hits on one pass, and fair hits on the second pass. No apparent damage. :eek::confused:

So there I was, trying to put as much distance between myself and the con, when he starts the usual spray job. Finally, at 681 yards, his efforts are rewarded. A single ping knocks out my engine. :mad: The real rub is that I was 680 yards away, with vertical separation of a full 1400 ft! Unbelievable.

OK, I can anticipate the retorts I'm going to get -
1) He may have been 681 yards distant on YOUR FE, but you were probably 150 yards distant on HIS FE...
2) It may have seemed like one ping, but it might have been many hits!
3) Don't quit your day job. Or have you already?

to which I say "yeah yeah yeah :rolleyes:" - to all of those.

But I don't think we're going to see these in AH2. Why's that then? Because it's BS, that's why.
« Last Edit: May 28, 2004, 04:44:42 AM by beet1e »

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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2004, 06:37:12 PM »
PS - I've just done the trig. Based on range of 680 yards (=2040 feet) and a vertical separation of 1400 ft, the Spit was firing upwards at me at an angle just slightly greater than 43.3°.

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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2004, 10:58:48 PM »
Don't quit your day job. Or have you already?

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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2004, 04:46:24 AM »
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Originally posted by XtrmeJ
Don't quit your day job. Or have you already?
Oh, well there's one I wasn't expecting. (Had to edit my post)Yep - quit 3 years ago. :p And I'm going to need all my spare time to process the AH2 whines! :lol

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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2004, 07:16:01 AM »
AH1 hit bubble = O



AH2 hit bubble = .
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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2004, 07:34:37 AM »
Quote from an old thread (AH1):
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54067

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Originally posted by SUPERFLY
AH doesn't have a hit bubble.

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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2004, 08:19:12 AM »
Magnetic planes?

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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2004, 08:30:17 AM »
Sorry urchin but if u didnt like fighting the spit 5 in ah1 than u better stear clear of em in ah2 cause they are niceeeeee.  However lots of folks will be back in ground school after attempting their first reversal..and u will have plenty of time to set up the next move cause aint no more spray and pray.

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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2004, 12:29:38 PM »
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Originally posted by beet1e
PS - I've just done the trig. Based on range of 680 yards (=2040 feet) and a vertical separation of 1400 ft, the Spit was firing upwards at me at an angle just slightly greater than 43.3°.


I thought range in the game was straight line, not just horizontal.  If so, the vertical separation is already factored into the range and it would be very difficult to determine the angle at time of firing without another measurement (or angle).
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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2004, 01:36:22 PM »
Why isn't this going to happen in AHII?
Quote from: 2bighorn on December 15, 2010 at 03:46:18 PM
Dedalos pretty much ruined DA.

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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2004, 08:10:04 PM »
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I thought range in the game was straight line, not just horizontal.  If so, the vertical separation is already factored into the range and it would be very difficult to determine the angle at time of firing without another measurement (or angle).


I made the calculations from a diagram like this.




The diagram above shows the relative positions of BillReed's Spit and my F4U. BillReed's Spit was at point A. My F4U was at point B.

The straight line distance between us is represented by side c in the triangle. 680 yards = 2040ft. The vertical separation (can be seen from side panel in film) was 1400ft at the time I took damage. That distance is represented by side a in the triangle.

We can easily calculate the value for angle B. Cosine B = a/c = 1400/2040 = 0.686. My calculator does not have a Cosine reversal function, but I was able to determine that the angle whose cosine is 0.686 is approximately 46.6°.

We know that angle C is a rightangle of 90° as side b is a horizontal line representing the horizontal distance between BillReed and myself. And we know that the three angles in a triangle add up to 180°. Therefore A = 180-B-C. Given that B= 46.6 and C= 90, A= 180-90-46.6 = 43.4°.

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« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2004, 11:05:33 PM »
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Originally posted by beet1e
Oh, well there's one I wasn't expecting. (Had to edit my post)Yep - quit 3 years ago. :p And I'm going to need all my spare time to process the AH2 whines! :lol


hehe yah once AH2 is released I think many of the dweebs will find things to whine about immediatly. No possibility they could just be thankful a new version is being released.. I can see it now. Preparing myself to process those whines with ya:p

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« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2004, 11:34:57 PM »
I'd like to post a whine in advace good sirs.

I'd like to whine about people who whine.

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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2004, 01:24:41 AM »
Good timing Beet, I second the pre whine - here's mine - When are we gonna get rid of AHI.  Whaaaaaa Pizza Sucks!!!!!!:D

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« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2004, 02:10:05 AM »
Morpheus is drunk pay no mind to him. Have a prairy oyster on me:p