Author Topic: Tour 16 Fighter Vs Fighter Stats (Read 846 times)

hazed- · « **Reply #15 on:** June 04, 2001, 08:45:00 AM »

seawulfe AKdejavu ,

I used to fly AH and was sick of fighting F4cs all day long especially on islands map.
There were too many flying around and it was getting boring.
Now i see maybe more nikis and spits but you know what? im not as bored because ....well unless the laws of mathmatics changed 2 targets are more varied than 1.
Laz:

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Originally posted by lazs:
LOL... now, instead of one plane being used twice as much as all the others.... We have 3 planes being used twice as much as all the others.
lazs

you really are dumb. This was what we were asking for.more variety, ok so it will annoy us fighting same 3 all the time but its better than 1.
F4c STILL has more kills than my ride(190a8) and its perked!

so 3 of top 6, LW whiners planes?. you know what i cant be bothered with you F*^king juvenilles.lets just play with some stats to make another point shall we? count how many kills between all 3 of the LW in top 6...WHAT 5.5 thousand tops? ....the F4c nearly beats that on its own.We can all make stats work for us you morons!

I say do us all a favour and stop posting this crap if you're gonna try to stir up arguements with it.I read it thinking it might be interesting and instead it turns into an attack on those that fly LW stuff.
I simply cant work you people out.I think its BLATENTLY obvious that the f4uc perk has worked.YOU like the f4c? had any trouble getting 8 perks have we? JESUS HTC perk the dora PLEASE.
shut deja,laz,SW and all the others up by giving them something to feel big about.
they're like children.
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Hazed
9./JG54

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AKDejaVu · « **Reply #16 on:** June 04, 2001, 08:49:00 AM »

Snefens, I've looked into doing that, but it didn't really change the outcome. The percentages still lined up. The only thing it really serves to do is to bump up the k/d of those aircraft above 1.0 and lower the k/d of those below.

Percentage wise, things don't really change.

AKDejaVu

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #17 on:** June 04, 2001, 08:50:00 AM »

Yoy two are paranoid as hell DJVU and SW, plus you act like tulips way too much.

What I said is I dont understand why the bomber kills arent counted, are they irrelevant to AH in your eyes? Just put in the kills and deaths against bombers for all the fighters, is that so much trouble?

BTW how many posts is this SW, or whatever useless garbage you post after I do?

Honestly you two should lighten up a lot. Not everyone in the world is after you or trying to insult you or doing whatever you two see is being done to you in your delusions. Dont be so damn reactionary and paranoid.

SeaWulfe · « **Reply #18 on:** June 04, 2001, 08:57:00 AM »

I was counting how many posts it took for someone to throw in a whine.

BTW, why don't you run the parser software and figure out the stats rather than getting upity with someone that is doing it in his free time for no profit?

"I may not be paying a cent, but I'm still going to find something to squeak about."
-SW

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SeaWulfe · « **Reply #19 on:** June 04, 2001, 09:00:00 AM »

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Originally posted by hazed-:
shut deja,laz,SW and all the others up by giving them something to feel big about.
they're like children.

Something to feel big about?

I was against perking the F4U-1C because it would open up the door to invite a flotilla of other "perk this" campaigns.

I do not, didn't nor will I ever like the F4U-1C... but I did not enjoy the predicament that "perking" it would create.

You pulled the trigger before the barrel was even loaded.
-SW

hazed- · « **Reply #20 on:** June 04, 2001, 09:03:00 AM »

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Originally posted by SeaWulfe:
10 posts RAM.
-SW

i think they should grunhertz.

I thought 10th moronic post for you then too SW. What does he think hes going to do to a grown adult with this toejam? drive RAM away with his BITING wit? he may bore him to death i suppose.

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Hazed
9./JG54

hazed- · « **Reply #21 on:** June 04, 2001, 09:08:00 AM »

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Originally posted by SeaWulfe:
Something to feel big about?

I was against perking the F4U-1C because it would open up the door to invite a flotilla of other "perk this" campaigns.

I do not, didn't nor will I ever like the F4U-1C... but I did not enjoy the predicament that "perking" it would create.

You pulled the trigger before the barrel was even loaded.
-SW

the only predicament i have read of with the F4c is this kind of rehashed crap bringing it all up again.Throw in some misleading stats and then question the idea to perk all over again.Its like listening to children SW. I'll say that again CHILDREN.
Its perked , by the company we pay money to.I as a customer agree with it.Seems to work fine.you dont agree with the perk system? cancel your account.

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Hazed
9./JG54

Hajo · « **Reply #22 on:** June 04, 2001, 09:08:00 AM »

AK, nice job. as far as nitpicking the stats who cares. just nice to see someone take the time to do this.

wish we had automatic macros in AH, when someone whined "a whine is recorded" would flash across text buffer <G>

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #23 on:** June 04, 2001, 09:09:00 AM »

Hazed,

This is the first tour where I saw predominantly a limited aircraft set.

The LW planes were virtually non existant. The off beat planes were also gone. I got all of my C.205 kills in one sortie... all 4 of them. I think it is because a squad was flying them at that time.

The C.202 and Ta 152 have all but disappeared. Its kinda sad that my 1 Ta 152 kill accounted for nearly 1% of their total deaths.

Nobody wants diversity because there is too much parity at the top. Now the LW is SOL because that parity at the top doesn't really fit into their fighting characteristics. Turn fighters... not the LW cup o tea.

I dunno... I just look at what the arena became last tour and the word "better" doesn't come to mind. Is it better to know there's a 1/8 chance that the plane aproaching is a Chog... or a 1/3 chance that its going to be another Nik, Spit or La-7?

AKDejaVu

SeaWulfe · « **Reply #24 on:** June 04, 2001, 09:11:00 AM »

I don't see anything being done to me, I just don't like whiney people...

They get very tiring in the real world, and even worse when they bring it over into your hobby.
-SW
ps: I do hope to drive RAM away, I'm dissappointed in myself I ever asked him to come back.

Pongo · « **Reply #25 on:** June 04, 2001, 09:12:00 AM »

The F4U1c was the best Jabo plane and best bomber killer in the game...So that doesnt count any more? Thats the only time I usually flew the thing.. But it doesnt count in its kills any more? Too inconvienient for certain parties I guess.

Why not just show the Chog vs Tempest stats to show that it should not have been perked...That would really "clerify" it for you guys..

Ripsnort · « **Reply #26 on:** June 04, 2001, 09:15:00 AM »

Actually, the Chog whine has been successful, Deja,...LW aircraft did not do well against the Chogs due to its B and Z aspects, but the Spit and N1K are aircraft that a B and Z LW plane can just keep making passes on until the spit/nick dive or make a mistake...LW planes can't do that against a hog, and will subsquently die. Therefore, its deemed successful if your a full time LW flyer, you've just eliminated 20% of your biggest threat, and replaced it with 26% of a threat that you can engage and disenage at will.

SeaWulfe · « **Reply #27 on:** June 04, 2001, 09:15:00 AM »

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Originally posted by hazed-:
the only predicament i have read of with the F4c is this kind of rehashed crap bringing it all up again.Throw in some misleading stats and then question the idea to perk all over again.

You either have a hard time understanding English, or your primary motives are running your thinking patterns...

In what part of DJ's post where he posted vs fighter stats did he say anything regarding perking planes or anything of that subject matter?

I can't find a single damn thing.

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Originally posted by hazed-:
Its like listening to children SW. I'll say that again CHILDREN.

I get the same feeling anytime something is posted by you or someone in your squad... always a whine about something (well except for Santa) wrong with the LW aircraft and how uber the allied aircraft are.

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Originally posted by hazed-:
cancel your account.

Would never give you the satisfaction.
-SW

SeaWulfe · « **Reply #28 on:** June 04, 2001, 09:18:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort:
Actually, the Chog whine has been successful, Deja,...LW aircraft did not do well against the Chogs due to its B and Z aspects, but the Spit and N1K are aircraft that a B and Z LW plane can just keep making passes on until the spit/nick dive or make a mistake...LW planes can't do that against a hog, and will subsquently die. Therefore, its deemed successful if your a full time LW flyer, you've just eliminated 20% of your biggest threat, and replaced it with 26% of a threat that you can engage and disenage at will.

Hehe yup.

Of course I never had a problem of any sort shooting down F4U-1Cs in a 190...
-SW

Ripsnort · « **Reply #29 on:** June 04, 2001, 09:29:00 AM »

Personally, I've been more deadly historically with the 190A8 in my time in AH than Ive ever been in the F4U-1C...but thats me. Chogs are sitting ducks IMO, except if Zig or Drex is driving them!