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Offline straffo

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« Reply #150 on: June 01, 2004, 02:35:26 AM »
goooodd !!

a least some other will suffer like our squad members !

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« Reply #151 on: June 01, 2004, 05:48:32 AM »
I don't operate by polls guttboy.


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« Reply #152 on: June 01, 2004, 09:32:34 AM »
Most of the time I ignore channel 1 and have had squadies tell me someone was addressing me or I would have not noticed it.  I ignore it cause way too much of it is just trash or arguments/discussions better left on the BBS.  

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I have spoken with or heard a couple of what sounded like very young people on local vox recently.  One was online at 4:30 AM my time.  Think it was a young one from England.  Sounded like it but hey maybe was an Aussie?

I also recall several people elsewhere that specifically stated they don't care for the abuse, belittling, berating, insulting, etc.. (the term used, to be polite, would be "grade school stuff" on channel 1).

I see someone telling someone they suck or some such a thing.  

Oh really?  

How is it known that the person being told they suck wasn't dealing with wife ack, kid ack, dog ack, or some such at that moment?  

Maybe the person is slightly vision impaired (don't be too amazed had someone ask me for help that was trying to learn AH1 that claimed to be somewhat vison impaired, and I confess, sadly, I didn't have a clue how to deal with that), maybe they're just starting to expeirence the problems of MS and want to enjoy what they can while they are still able, or oh so many things that affect us all!  

What gives with this stuff?  

Is it really so important to someone's ego that they have to shoot another person down and then abuse and insult them???? (see end of 3rd paragraph in parens please)  You need WWF? Hey! go watch it then.  

Don't wanna be ganged?  Ever tried NOT flyin outa a vulched base and flyin out of a different base instead?  To me Gangin is a part of AH.  I get ganged and I gang, sometimes i get shot down doin either one sometimes I survive.  I don't expect a 1v1, those are very rare, and I try to fly accordingly.  One way to avoid gangs  is to fly with alt (20K or so) and Monty Python it (as in runaway! runaway!) when you have to LOL.

My take on HT's response was, he has been very busy and so has not been able to follow the activities that have been gradually getting worse and worse on channel 1 and his reaction when he finally actually saw some of the garbage was swift and to the point.

IMHO WAY TO GO HT!!!!!!

I admit I enjoy some exchanges I've had, and watched, with several others on channel 1.  The salutes and GOOD NATURED joking type that is.  To name just a few ... Silat, Whels, AKAK, Plumbit, tush, 999000 (before and after he became a knight), JB11, JB42, (and for that matter all of the JB squad), Ramair, Flossy, SESharp (before and after he became WMSharp my squadie), and the list goes on and on and on......   Most of the people in the MA are NOT putting out trash on channel 1 they're just trying to enjoying it and the people online and AH.

I also admit I have come away with a not very high opinion of some I've had exchanges with on channel 1.  I won't name em cause I doubt I need to.

IMHO if these people leave because they have some kind of NEED to be insulting and abusive to others and can no longer appease that NEED then GOOD your business doesn't need em and I believe others will arrive to replace em and will probably have better manners too.

I once got rather upset at g00b who was flyin an La7, said as much on channel 1, and I went back up after him and I filmed it and looked at it later and discovered I was flyin poorly and when next I saw g00b was online I stated as much.  He just flew well and I was flyin very poorly.  The film showed me that.  I was wrong to react the way I did.  I stated that too.  All on public channel 1.

So yes the public channel 1 can be very useful and even enjoyable when it is not being abused!  BUT if some individuals can not control themselves and be considerate of ALL the other people that use it then I can enjoy AH without a public channel.  If nothing else set it to be squelched unless otherwise turned on or selected.  Or they can just go to 200.

That is my $0.02 worth.
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« Reply #153 on: June 01, 2004, 10:45:07 AM »
The best feature ever introduced is removing channel one!!
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Please turn it on! Please do not punish everyone for some thing one or two did wrong. That seems childish to me. Kinda like something a kindergarden teacher would do to the class. I am not sure what happened and I am commenting only on what I was told happened. If I am wrong on what is going on then please forgive me. If not.....Please return the open channel.
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« Reply #154 on: June 01, 2004, 11:05:55 AM »
To those who think this is a knee jerk reaction. It's not, I wrote the stuff to disable channel 1 on april 13.

We had been planing on disabling channel 1 over the last year. Had AHII not frozen AHI code it would have been implemented in AHI some time ago.

To those who think we do not understand communication in online games, we do. It's was not a simple choice to disable channel 1, Pyro and I have playing online for close to 15 years, we well understand the chat roll/fun of channel 1.

As AH has evolved and grown some problems have changed the game dynamics. When we had 300 people in an arena the world was small enof where peer pressure and us getting involved could keep the down side of channel 1 in check. Now with 700 online, people start to feel anonymous and feel they have rights to abuse things.

2. The volumn of trafic has changed and starts to become overwhellming. Anyone rember when I removed kill messages and changed them to end of sortie only? This was also to dimisish text trafic.

So the sky is not falling, We just decided the the detriments of channel 1 outwighed the advantages.

1 thing we might implement is a .s GameId command, this would then brodcast GameId over channel 1 even with it disabled.


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« Reply #155 on: June 01, 2004, 12:02:51 PM »
It is unfortunate, I think.

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« Reply #156 on: June 01, 2004, 12:56:20 PM »
"1 thing we might implement is a .s GameId command, this would then brodcast GameId over channel 1 even with it disabled. "

How about an autoreply feature so I can just keep flying (or going from the tower to the runway to reup) feeling secure that my opponent received a courteous salute? It could be an optional check box.

Salute option:
___ (from) ___________________
Salute when:
___ scoring victory
___ yout opponent is the victor

I'm:

a: lazy
b: a lousy typist
c: not the best at remembering if the fight lasts long and the bad guys are many.

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« Reply #157 on: June 01, 2004, 01:00:28 PM »
Just so ya know checkers, I don't have any kids
 But , there are still lots of people who don't use headphones(which I do, use headphones, that is)
TV has the FCC
movies has a membership card which restricts the ability of which movies can be rented by minors
 Internet has software that can block(tho not very well)
 the point I'm trying to make here is that I'm not willing to pay $15 bucks a month to hear trash talk.
 I'm also not willing to promote this game to kids the way channel 1 was being abused.
 If I wanted to do that, I'd go play quake or c/s on a free server
 Supposidly the average player age in this game is @ 40.
 you'd think people would act thier age, but obviously there are lots of people woh think that being "on the internet" gives them free reign to talk trash anonymously with no repercussions.
 well guess what-HT nailed it on the head with his last post.
 there are too many boneheads for the community to police itself,otherwise it would have happened already.
 when some Kid(14-16) starts too play this game and sees the crap on 1, they think,cool, just like quake, I can say anything I want and nothing will happen.
 all that has happened is that HT has "taken the batteries from the remote" so you don't see that stuff when you first log in.
 The interesting thing will be to see what happens once AH2 starts, as I got a feeling that most of the pottymouths won't be able to afford to upgrade.
 as for the ability to communicate-- /. 200
it ain't that tough
« Last Edit: June 01, 2004, 01:04:13 PM by Flit »

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« Reply #158 on: June 01, 2004, 01:22:05 PM »
The lack of channel 1 in AH2 beta online is one of the single greatest improvements over AH1.  Kudos to Hitech for making AH2 much more of an air combat simulation than an air combat game.

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« Reply #159 on: June 01, 2004, 01:22:22 PM »
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1 thing we might implement is a .s GameId command, this would then brodcast GameId over channel 1 even with it disabled.


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« Reply #160 on: June 01, 2004, 01:37:23 PM »
Originally posted by Odie202

"I don't operate by polls guttboy.


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« Reply #161 on: June 01, 2004, 01:44:48 PM »
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Originally posted by Odie202
No Odie I dont get the hint.....care to rephrase?


It was a joke, see... HTC doesn't operate by poll, rather he operates by Bribe.

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« Reply #162 on: June 01, 2004, 01:53:47 PM »
Thanks....

Didnt get much sleep this weekend so Im draggin....LOL

Regards

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« Reply #163 on: June 01, 2004, 01:59:44 PM »
That went also right over my head before silkboy :)

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« Reply #164 on: June 01, 2004, 02:02:09 PM »
.s Hitech
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