Author Topic: New blackout model in AHII will make you change how u dfight  (Read 1289 times)

Offline Mister Fork

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Like to fly with constant turns in total blackout trying to escape your opponent?  Constantly pushing the black threshold?  Like to turn and burn in constant high-g pulls?  Like to cheat death when you pass out by hitting autopilot?

Real life G-effects has been implemented into AHII. No longer can you pull in the black to get out of a jam - you'll pass out.  You won't be able to engage autopilot or use trim either.  It's a dead-stick when you pass out from g forces or wounds.

Looking forward to blasting a lot of dead-stick La-7's out of the sky. :D
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Offline ra

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New blackout model in AHII will make you change how u dfight
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2004, 08:52:07 PM »
La-7's aren't the big turners, Spits and Nikis are.  It's about time the light loafers crowd got a taste of reality.

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New blackout model in AHII will make you change how u dfight
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2004, 10:31:16 PM »
Where's Oxygen mask when you need one? :D
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Offline guttboy

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New blackout model in AHII will make you change how u dfight
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2004, 11:12:02 PM »
HINT HINT....you can still pull negative g's into full redout and still be fine though....OH NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2004, 11:27:51 PM »
This sounds great.  Exactly as it should be:p

Wait a sec :rolleyes:  thats me stuffed then:eek:

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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2004, 11:31:11 PM »
not to split hairs - but don't you *push* negative g's? :)
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Re: New blackout model in AHII will make you change how u dfight
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2004, 11:40:13 PM »
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Originally posted by Mister Fork
Like to fly with constant turns in total blackout trying to escape your opponent?  Constantly pushing the black threshold?  Like to turn and burn in constant high-g pulls?  Like to cheat death when you pass out by hitting autopilot?

Real life G-effects has been implemented into AHII. No longer can you pull in the black to get out of a jam - you'll pass out.  You won't be able to engage autopilot or use trim either.  It's a dead-stick when you pass out from g forces or wounds.

Looking forward to blasting a lot of dead-stick La-7's out of the sky. :D



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Offline Sox62

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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2004, 02:15:44 AM »
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La-7's aren't the big turners, Spits and Nikis are.  It's about time the light loafers crowd got a taste of reality.



I primarily fly the Spit V,and I tried the new blackout deal doing some hard turns after I downloaded the update.

The bottom line;don't hold your breathe waiting for Spit drivers to blackout for you.

Offline Westy

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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2004, 07:20:29 AM »
hallelujah!!!

This feature has been a LONG time coming.  WTG.

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New blackout model in AHII will make you change how u dfight
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2004, 07:25:02 AM »
This is going to make the 163 a real deathtrap, also dive bombing Jabos had better come in more shallow. Same for any cherry pickers who attack with boatloads of smash. The real gotcha here is that the effects are CUMULATIVE. Pull a half second blackout and you are fine (no funky chicken loss of control), but if you do that half second blackout 6 times...next time it goes black you are completely unconscious and pretty much dead meat unless your trim was good, you were close to level, were not too low, and had no NMEs on you.

Landing those pilot woulded sorties will be a LITTLE tougher, but if you are PW'ed AND missing a wingtip I don;t think you'll make it.

Offline beet1e

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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2004, 07:53:20 AM »
cannot come fast enough!

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« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2004, 09:06:43 AM »
This is what HiTech wrote in another post. I think you need to understand the real details of how it works.

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Have fixed a few over sights, and changed some values for the next AHII patch.

Values it used to take 5 secs of black out time to become unconsious. It will now take 3.

The 3 secs is not a messure of a single black out time but wrather a fatigue factor. It is accumlated when ever you are in full black out. It drains at the rate of 0.1 sec for every sec you are not blacked out.So if you accumlated 2 secs of black out it would take 20 secs to be back to square 1. With 5 secs of black out it used to drain at a rate of 0.25 secs per sec. Once unconsious you will remain so for 10 secs, that value has not changed.

Other fixed oversights, throttle, and auto pilot engaging are now disabled if you are unconsious from either wound or accumlated black out.
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« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2004, 09:28:49 AM »
ahhhhhh... enlightening.

never knew exactly how the "longer" b/o worked.  very rarely ever encountered it, except from wounds anyway.

this will make those who dive away from higher alts in spirals, using jinks, into lawn darts even more so than they often are.

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« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2004, 09:42:43 AM »
Total non issue, flew last night didn't notice a change.  I guess I'm not one of those blackouyt dweebs.  Dam.
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« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2004, 09:48:19 AM »
This wont affect me in anyway.
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